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6. WHOSE BIBLE IS IT ANYWAY?
7. BUDDHA AS FICTION: THE BUDDHA MYTH
8. 666 PROOFS OF GOD'S EXISTENCE


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WHOSE BIBLE IS IT ANYWAY?
ASK AN ATHEIST!


By Philip R. Davies


It is still a curiosity to most persons in the street that there are University professors of Bible who, like me, do not believe in God. Or rather, do not believe in the god(s) of that Bible (or “those bibles,” since Jews and Christians do not share the same bible, nor do many Christian denominations). Atheist scholarship is now becoming slightly less curious to biblical scholars themselves, though the development of a genuinely atheistic (or post-theist, if you prefer) agenda within the discipline is not taking place without a good deal of resistance from traditional circles (or squares, if you prefer). This struggle cannot be understood without a brief history, for which I apologize in advance.

A BRIEF HISTORY OF BIBLICAL STUDIES

Biblical studies is a relatively new discipline. Since the invention of the university, initiated by the Muslims and introduced into the Christian, but relatively barbaric, Europe in the Middle Ages, the study of theology (Islamic or Christian) has been a major part of its curriculum. “Scripture” comprised a part of Christian theology (as did the Qur’an in Muslim theology), and although the orthodox theological systems of both religions heavily overlay their revealed texts with Aristotelian philosophy, the insistence by the leaders of the Christian Reformation on the exclusivity of scripture as the basis of salvation (and thus implicitly of doctrine) laid the foundations of a process in Christian theology that split into two contrary directions.

On the one hand, the enhanced authority of scripture and the precedence given to the literal over other (e.g. allegorical) interpretations of its contents, led to the emergence of fundamentalism, a mindset (if mind is the right word) that believes not only that the Bible is true, inspired, and inerrant, but that it is literally so. This particular and peculiar view of scripture (which fundamentalists mistakenly suppose to be older than a few centuries) unfortunately grew with the advent of the modern, scientific age, with the result that the pre-Reformation clash between Galileo and the Pope became a running post-Reformation battle between a biblical and a scientific epistemology. The notion that the bible imparted timeless truths — an idea that pre-Reformation theology had sustained by means of Greek philosophy and typological or allegorical interpretation — was retained, but in a literal mode. The Bible was, accordingly, held by fundamentalists as composed of plain statements that were always and everywhere correct.

On the other hand, that same emphasis on the literal meaning of scripture induced among scholars a strongly historical reading, especially of the Old Testament. More intelligent, inquiring minds – open to the Enlightenment project of reason yet still attached to the authority of scripture – initiated a program of historical criticism. The result of this was the discipline of biblical studies as it was known until recently — indeed, known to me as an undergraduate student in the 1960s. Priding itself on its secular credentials, yet practiced almost without exception by Christian believers, biblical criticism (as it more commonly called itself) was concerned with matters of authorship, dating, and original meaning of biblical texts. The theology of the Bible, which continued to thrive, was understood by biblical scholars to be descriptive and not prescriptive. That is, it simply explained what the authors believed. In this way, despite enshrining certain archaic beliefs and practices like polygamy, genocide, or slavery, a certain distance could be set from what modern Christians actually did.

Well, for the Old Testament, at any rate. After all, the writers of the books of the Old Testament were not Christians, and did not really have to be made into Christians. On the other hand, like the saints waiting in hell for Christ to burst the bonds (or perhaps to be baptized as Mormons), these books had to be acclaimed as Christian scripture, somehow. For the most part, they were more or less equated with ancient Israel religious beliefs, which were not quite Christian but on the right track, more or less. For the New Testament, however, things were (and still are in many circles) rather different. I am weary of commentaries on, say, the Letter to the Romans that read: “Paul assures us that......” Us? Paul did not have the faintest idea that there would be a twentieth century. If he had thought there would be, his entire world would have collapsed! NO imminent return of the Christ? The prospect of marriage to keep a human race going for two more millennia at least? I would not take an “assurance” from this man. The superficial impartiality of the historical-critical enterprise had its limits, and the words of St. Paul (and, of course, of Jesus, and of James, Peter, and other assorted pseudepigraphic authors) retained their full authority. These authors were Christians writing to Christians. They were, after all, inventing Christianity between them. The mere biblical scholar (and Christian) saw his (yes, his) task as making that perennial message clearer, and not just for dispassionate comprehension, but for informed obedience.

CREEDS, CREDENCE, AND CREDENTIALS

And so here we were, or here I was, a few decades ago: Biblical scholarship is an oblique form of Christian theology practiced by Christians for the benefit of Christians. A cheap jibe? Consider this: not many years ago, a British University rejected an offer of funding from an Arab to set up a chair in Islamic theology. The problem was that the holder of the chair was to be a Muslim. Muslims, as is well known to us all, are incapable of critical reflection on Islam, because they believe the Qur’an is inspired by Allah, who, though the only god (like the Lord, Yahweh), is a different unique deity. So I was taught Arabic, and Islam, at my mediaeval University by non-Muslims, though I was taught some modern Arab literature by an Arab (he might, of course, have been a Christian...). Christians (and, to some extent, Jews who have been sufficiently Westernized) can do real criticism of their religious texts while retaining their faith. Those of other religions must be viewed with suspicion. They cannot tell the difference between criticism and confession. Myopia? It was worse than that. You might think that because Christian bible scholarship thought it was critical, it would not mind having Atheists doing the same thing (because surely their presence would prove that the discipline was not Christian). But I can speak from experience when I tell you that it is still sometimes rather embarrassing to admit to being an Atheist. You have, after all, to keep speaking of “God” rather than “the ancient Israelite deity” and are constantly encouraged to explain how superior biblical ethics and myths and practices and laws were to those of non-proto-Christians. The British learned society for Old Testament study struggled hard before it recently decided not to keep prayers on its annual meeting agenda (the prayers are held, of course, but no longer as part of the official business). And the terrible German habit of introducing preaching into commentaries and monographs is far from gone. But in so many ways the language and habits of Christian confession remain. The chief problem is the confusion of the deity Yahweh with the god of the scholar (more on this later), and the Christian spectacles lead to such perceptions as preaching prophets who really get messages from this god and deliver sermons to massed congregations, or the support of prophets against kings in the matter of political government (how would that work today?)

But while biblical scholarship taken on the whole has exhibited a critical sheen over a Christian piety, we must not forget the conservative evangelicals. These are rather like Cape Coloreds in South Africa, frowned upon by the whites (who represent in my metaphor the “real scholars”) but treated better by them than the blacks (the fundamentalists). They themselves believe they are scholars, however, and distance themselves from fundamentalists (“blacks”). They believe in something called “evangelical scholarship” (repeat the phrase, then ask yourself: why should scholarship be evangelical?). And they have a battalion of publishers (many in Western Michigan) to put out their stuff. True, their attitude to scholarship distinguishes them from fundamentalists and other conservatives, who distrust scholarship, because these latter suspect that all critical wisdom comes from Original Sin and stems from Unbelief, and so will lead the thinker to Hell. This makes their eagerness to get a “PhD” (or some sort of “doctor” title) hard to understand. The aim must be, I think, to so discredit these degrees and titles that no real scholar can ever use them.

“IDEOLOGY” AND “I.D. OLOGY”

But things have changed, and during my own lifetime. Academic study of the Bible is still largely conducted in religious establishments (German Faculties of Protestant or Catholic Theology; seminaries, Bible colleges, denominational Universities) and by professional officers of one or other church. But a terrible plague has hit biblical scholarship: interdisciplinarity. Biblical scholars have started reading philosophy, linguistics, politics, and even worse – cultural studies. I am no expert, but I think the Americans deserve the credit. The multidisciplinary agenda of most American syllabuses has turned out graduate students in Bible programs who have taken courses in literature, philosophy, even “theory.” These more broadly educated persons do not see the barbed wire around the ghetto that biblical scholarship had long occupied. Many of them are even postmodern, for God’s sake. By the time they get to graduate school they are too old to be fully converted back.

And let us not forget political correctness. I am no great defender of its massive stupidities, but its heart is in the right place. Democracy gave birth to the oppression of minorities by majorities (and some think that was not so bad). But now minorities have changed their names, and call themselves collectively “the Other.” They are blacks, women, homosexuals, Third World citizens, to name the obvious.

What does this broader education and this political sensitivity mean to the discipline of biblical studies? What happens, for instance, when a feminist reads that the woman sinned first and that she must therefore be subject to her husband? What does she make of the incredible fact that ancient males begot so many sons and so few daughters — yet the men managed to have more than one wife (a lot of wars, she supposes)? If she is a Christian (and this is the majority), she discovers that something is more important to her than the Bible: herself, her gender. She does not agree with this sacred inspired text.

I think it was feminism that made the decisive breach in the wall of “bible-affirming” scholarship. Behind the women poured in others. Many of these were white males, suddenly becoming feminist too, but also enjoying an inner liberation from slavery to these ancient texts. Another breach is just opening up: post-colonial interpretation. The idea of bringing the Bible to colonized regions of the globe was to show them not only how they could be saved for eternity but how wonderful the colonizing civilization was, what a loving god their exploiters had (or vice-versa). With the colonizers, they could read about the “god of the fathers” who led the Israelites from slavery via genocide to their own land, which they alone would inhabit.

Wait a minute! From slavery? Genocide? Their own land? It took surprisingly long for the proponents of Liberation Theology to realize that they had the wrong title for their project, unless they meant liberation from the Bible. The Bible is not only the great stay and comfort of the Colonizing White Human. It is a pro-colonial book. Abraham is led to a land that other people occupy already, and is told it will be his. The Israelites are later promised they can have this land if they exterminate the indigenous folk. Centuries later, having been exiled for their stupidity/sinfulness, the aristocrats of Judah (or their offspring) come back to the land and do it all over again. The poor people left behind are ignored, the self-styled “exiles” take over again, claiming to be the rightful inhabitants of the land.

How much more natural, then, for a Christian Native American, for instance, to identify with the Canaanites? The same goes for the black races of Africa, whom some colonials had indeed identified as the descendants of the cursed son of Noah, Ham (father of Canaan). And we should not forget the Palestinians, too, who suffer the double misfortune of playing Canaanites and Red Indians, to those American-Jewish gun-toting settlers of the Wild West Bank. The Bible has indeed been the chief weapon of their colonizer. The Palestinian case is particularly sensitive, because it brings into play the tacit (and often not tacit) support of biblical scholarship itself for the State of Israel, busy recolonizing Palestine’s past as Israel (even when it was Muslim, as it was for over a millennium). That Christians feel responsible for the Holocaust makes the whole business more tricky. But sympathy for one set of victims ought not preclude sympathy for other victims. The Bible has been used to impose false identities on colonized and marginalized readers. Once they see where their true political, social and personal interests lie, they realize they have to renegotiate their attitude to the Bible.

IS THERE A GOD IN THIS TEXT

Recent literary and semiotic theory, as every undergraduate at a decent school learns, has shown that texts do not have objective meanings. Their readers, as individuals and as groups, create interpretations. Anything expressed in language is subject to the shifts of meaning and usage in language, while literary works of the best sort exploit ambiguity (seen any Shakespeare lately?) The recognition over the last decades that the Bible is literature has exposed it as a text continuously manipulated in the past (and present) by the Roman Catholic Church, by pastors, politicians, parents, evangelists, and colonizers of every sort. The manipulation has not always been bad: what I would regard as good things have come of it. But the increasing awareness of biblical scholars that this collection of literature is not innocent, is not necessarily to be affirmed, is leading to a crisis far greater than Darwin ever inflicted. If reading is more than ever an ethical act, then the hitherto unspoken question must be shouted out loud: do you agree with this text? Do you affirm its values? If not — who is right?

My earlier sketch of the history of biblical scholarship showed how the Bible was once necessarily affirmed; then, with critical scholarship, it was quietly affirmed, but with qualifications, and under a cloak of critical neutrality (except for the Germans, I suppose). Now, there is a cacophony of voices resisting, fighting, undermining and challenging this literature. Some still seek to redeem it for modern Christians. Others want to reject it. A great majority, I suspect, wriggle in silence or semi-silence. The Bible has finally been outed. It is, if you like the metaphor, not a respectable white middle class middle-aged heterosexual pillar of society. It is a racist, sexist, sadomasochistic deviant, an offense to modern values. It offers an appalling role-model for modern civilization.

So what of its deity? Or perhaps one should say its deities? The god of the Old Testament is a loving husband and father who promises to strip naked his erring wife in front of the neighbors, who confesses that he has repeatedly been violent to her, and who persecutes his children if they are disobedient, even to the point of killing them all (you can find the texts easily enough). He is also the Almighty King, the despot who by definition cannot do wrong, since what is Right In His Sight rules, OK? His favorite title is “Yahweh of Armies” (the “Lord of Hosts” or “Lord of Sabaoth” of the King James Bible). He consumes enormous quantities of meat, reared and slaughtered by humans who sometimes get a share (especially if they are priests). He is Lord of All, but extremely nepotistic, preferring his son Israel (despite his severity towards the child) to all others. And so on. This is a fearful character, a terrible character; he is Saddam Hussein.

His role in the New Testament is little better. He is so angry/upset with humans that he has to be propitiated by human sacrifice and sends his own son to be tortured and killed. And, as with the flood so much earlier, this violent act has served little if anything to reduce the level of sin in the world, to make it a better place to live in. Ask the many victims of Christianity all around the world. At best, the benefits of Christianity (they exist) have mitigated its disadvantages.

Given all this, what biblical scholar could possibly review a bible with undiminished benevolence? Only the kind of scholar who, until recently, was the norm – and indeed still makes up most of the constituency: a Christian studying her/his scriptures. Is the Bible, I am inclined to wonder, a safe weapon in the hands of Christian believers? Or do we need a policy of Affirmative Action in favor of Atheists?

Well, let us not be too hasty. There is a strategy for believers that copes with some of the difficulty. It is offered by the “Bible as Literature” movement. Literature, runs the creed, does not reflect the real world, but worlds of the imagination. Characters that inhabit stories do not inhabit the real world. Even in historical fiction, the Caesars, Borgias, Wyatt Earps and Jesuses of history are not identical to the creations of the authors who write them up. The god, at least of the Old Testament (we must take this in easy steps) is really not the real “God” but a literary creation. Hence, when we criticize this character for doing horrible things we are not being blasphemous (as a pious student might suppose) but implicitly pointing out the imperfections and inadequacies of the deities that humans invent (as compared to the real deity!)

A deist can then claim that no one can really describe the real deity, because it is beyond our capacity to comprehend (and this line has the support of some strands of Christian theology which declare that God is unknowable, though such Neoplatonic traditions are generally not invoked). There is, all the same, a problem – a rather simple one. If the deity of the Bible is a real deity, the Bible is an unreliable, even libelous portrait, and burning it would constitute extreme piety. If your biblical deity is not real, then what on earth is a Bible for? So what is a Bible for in either case? Clearly theists cannot really answer this question. If bibles are worth anything at all to the human race, it is up to Atheists to make the case!

THE PERIL OF THE POSTMODERN

When Nietzsche said that God was dead he did not mean this as a metaphysical statement, of course, but a cultural one, and terrible consequences were foreseen. Nietzsche predicted that not long after the divine funeral, the bereaved human race (or at least the humanity of Western civilization) would enter into violent conflict, after which their world of values would continue to crumble as meaning drained out of existence. Two world wars and then the end of modernism (i.e. the end of truth, progress, logic, and all that) duly happened. But one curious outcome was not foreseen. Postmodernism has not induced the complete dissipation of allegiance to objective values, authority, transcendence, the rule of the phallus. This allegiance has simply given up on logic, reason, and the idea of progress. Faced with something more threatening than liberalism, the authority-hungry, certainty-hungry moral fascist junkies who constitute the Moral Majority or the Christian Coalition (and are more rabid than the fundamentalists of Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, or Israel, because they only terrorize their fellow-citizens) have simply revived the nauseating spectacle of a Crusade. The medieval crusaders, in search of the kingdom of Christ in the Holy Land, having trampled en route the Christians of the East, then inflicted on the Jews and Muslims of the Holy Land an orgy of slaughter and imperialism in the name of a sick religious fervor (and a greedy Pope). The modern crusaders are draped with pseudomoral banners such as “Life” (thousands of African children die each year of disease and hunger; many more lives could be saved and much cheaper), or “Family Values” (those spurned by Jesus, presumably) and the enemies that they identify are not so different from those that Adolf Hitler picked on. We are witnessing a kind of moral eugenics. Reason, compassion, and tolerance (the collective term for these is “liberalism”) have given way to unreason and intolerance, unmistakable symptoms of the sickness known as Religious Conviction. Curiously enough, this attitude pretty well reflects the portrait of the biblical god, who was not one to reason, nor indulge those who want to “do their own thing,” nor tolerate those who could not make their minds up about his existence.

At a slightly more respectable level, a parallel phenomenon has occurred among conservative evangelicals, who are learning not only how to spell “postmodernism” but even to claim it as an ally. Why? Simply because their greatest enemy always was reason. It was reason in the hands of their opponents that constantly drove them back from the front line of scholarship. It was always being taken too far for their liking. But reason is now out of fashion: it represents the domain of oppressive androcentrism; it is the tool of oppression, the denier of subjectivity; it leads to “positivism,” “reductionism,” “materialism,” or whatever. With reason disarmed by the postmodern intellectual establishment, critics now have no grounds on which to challenge absurd propositions and illogical arguments about the Bible. Indeed, “absurd” and “illogical” are now meaningless terms. Modernism was about progress, human improvement, science. But the improvement of humans was never much liked by conservatives, because humans were supposed to be forever cursed in their sin, saved only by the grace of God. History, too, had no meaning other than the Millennium, the Second Coming, Armageddon. Evangelical Christianity and postmodern have agreed that the notions of progress and of a meaning to history are both dead.

THE BIBLE AND ATHEISTS NEED EACH OTHER

The number of Atheists among the community of biblical scholars is rather small, and they are not a well-knit community. After all, people who don’t believe in fairies don’t form groups, nor do those who doubt that dragons breathe fire or that Martians ever made it to Montana. Atheists are constituted as a group only by theists, when they want to attack or isolate people. But whether Atheists as a group need to express their solidarity within society as a whole (and I can see why this might be the case in North America), they certainly need to be outed within biblical scholarship. For we have a positive agenda — or we should! There are at least three reasons why the Bible needs Atheists, and two more why Atheists need the Bible.

THE BIBLE NEEDS ATHEISTS TO PROTECT ITS AUTHORS

For two thousand years Jewish and Christian commentators and preachers have been forcing its wonderfully varied contents into a Procrustean bed of religious dogma, a statement of faith or of the divine Law. They have been formulating what “the Bible says.” But any knowledgeable reader knows that “the Bible says” is a stupid statement. For it usually says, or implies, the opposite as well. It is not a coherent and unified text, but a collection, the work of many authors, most of them intelligent and accomplished, but a few rather dull. We do not really know who these persons were (tradition has as usual assigned some appropriate authors), or indeed when, where, or why they wrote. We do know, however, that the authors of the contents of the Old Testament (as it is known by Christians) were not Christians, and their idea of a god was not a Christian one. They were mostly not Jewish either, in the sense that they could be claimed as paid-up members in what has passed for Judaism for two thousand years.

This may strike you as an obvious point, but it has made little impact on the way pious Christians or Jews have read the Bible – which is, as Jewish or Christian literature. Yet clearly they are not reading it as the original authors intended it to be read. Now, no modern reader can claim to be able to understand a text as the author (or even the first readers) did. But there is upon us a moral obligation to accord the author some respect. I do not expect my own writings to survive for long. If people want to read meanings into my writings that suit themselves, I can’t stop them. But I would not like them to pretend they are representing me. Now, can we read Paul as his first addressees did? Well, we can try, with the aid of historical research. Do biblical scholars try? Despite the amount of historical research within New Testament scholarship, my impression is that on the whole the answer is “no.” One obvious illustration of this is that many of these original readers (as the letters themselves make clear) disagreed with Paul. Go and find biblical scholars who do the same. You will have less chance than did old Diogenes of finding an honest citizen. Reading Paul as scripture means making him say something that Christians can accept; it means being on his side. That, paradoxically enough, is extremely unfair to the old missionary. It seems he used to like arguments. Now scholars quibble about exactly what he meant, but practically never argue about whether he was right! Hopefully, some of the recent books on Paul by Jewish scholars might change that state of affairs. One only hopes they will not have the effect of merely turning him into a good Jew.

THE BIBLE’S MODERN READERS ALSO NEED PROTECTING

Since the Bible contains some fine poetry, some glorious prose, and some very subversive ideas and statements, as well as some awful ones, modern readers need to be able to distinguish the good from the bad if they are to develop any serious appreciation of it. After all, it opens with the account of a deity at his wits’ end when confronted by human ingenuity, forced to resort to violence, bluff, and deceit as he kicks them out of his specially-constructed garden. Later on it satirizes (Jonah) and condemns (Jeremiah) prophets and berates corrupt priests (Malachi). It claims that the deity tells lies (1 Kings 22) and that he treats evil and wicked people alike (Ecclesiastes, stating the obvious). It also criticizes the accumulation of wealth by abuse of power, and condemns injustice and hypocrisy. On the other hand, its deity drowns the entire human race (and animals) — with the exception of one family; it endorses slavery, and commands parents to have disobedient children executed by the neighbors. It advocates slaying homosexuals, yet punishes rapists by forcing them to marry their victims (or, better, forces the victims to marry the rapist. Just consider that for a minute!). It calls for lepers to be banished from society. Because these are all biblical ideas, they can be made to compel obedience from credulous and manipulated congregations. There is a desperate need for a counter-attack, one which takes both the Bible and the reader seriously and responsibly. And it goes without saying that the Bible must be read, if at all, thoroughly and directly, and not absorbed second-hand and in selected morsels from self-appointed ministers of religion, who have no interest in undermining their own status by dismantling the authority of the Bible on which their own authority so often rests.

FINALLY, THE BIBLE ITSELF NEEDS PROTECTING

It is, after all, only a collection of writings which later political and religious authorities deemed worthy of preserving, then decided to canonize, then finally to attribute to their god. But some people expect it to stand in the place of the deity himself, idolizing big black bibles placed in pulpits, preserving family bibles as heirlooms, having witnesses in a court of justice swear on it. I have seen (in Africa) a heavy bible balanced on the head of a girl who, every month or so, got herself possessed by a spirit (I never knew if it was the same one each time) and needed to be exorcised. Whether she enjoyed this ritual or not I have no idea, but her posture and deportment certainly became better than all the other girls in the town. Yes, this Bible has been idolized, turned into a charm, a bran tub for the fishing out of texts that magically give you a personal message from Up There: a Holy Thing. In reality, a bible is a sheaf of pages of translated ancient human compositions, ritually abused from time to time and perhaps silently longing to be released from the bonds of devotion and allowed to show what it can really do when it lets its hair down. If you haven’t guessed it already, I am very fond indeed of this Bible, despite its many dangerous faults. But I wish it would carry a health warning and that only people who have proved they know how to read properly should be licensed to teach it. Is there any doubt that the Bible would be safer in the hands of Atheists?

BUT WHY DO ATHEISTS NEED THE BIBLE?

The obvious answer (one often imputed to us by theists) is that we need something not to believe in, like the Welshman (one of my ancestors, no doubt), who, shipwrecked on a desert island, built two chapels: one to attend, and the other to avoid. Or the Irish politician who came to the Palace of Westminster from his constituency especially to “abstain in person.” We need, the charge runs, to have something specifically not to believe in. We are engaged in adolescent rebellion against the Parent.

Well, it is true that Atheism is not a shrug-of-the shoulders denial of deities. That attitude is closer to agnosticism, the position of the great philosopher Parmenides, who said that the existence of the gods is too complicated a question and human life to short to make it worth bothering with. Atheism is a direct challenge to theism, its other side. And as such it is not worthy of an Atheist to shrug shoulders at the Bible which, unlike gods, does really exist, and is, at least in some extreme Protestant forms of veneration, an idol to be broken.

But the Atheist’s claim on the Bible is not fundamentally a negative one. It is not an enemy. People may have been killed for translating, or even owning one, and horrible things have been done for its sake. But, just as guns do not kill people, neither do books. The real reason Atheists need the Bible is because it belongs to us as well. Despite the claims that it is the property of the church (or synagogue), it is, like the pyramids, Stonehenge, Chartres cathedral, or the Easter Island sculptures, the product of human imagination and labor. These artifacts are all our heritage, and all, as it happens, are inspired by religious ideas and built for religious motives. Most great works of the past were similarly inspired, because our species has a long history of religion – one that is far from over. But we also have, I think, a moral duty to claim ownership, as humans, of the Bible. For to make the claim is do deny and to frustrate those who want to place their hands upon it and draw from it the power that they can then exert over others. Those who cannot live without the notion that the secrets of life (including their own) are determined in writing, that God’s Plan for Them is encoded in random texts needs counseling. But there are many more who can’t be bothered with the Bible because they associate it with a certain kind of religiosity. That is a shame, because the Bible deserves to be read for what it is: one of the great works of literature, and one that has shaped our civilization — the civilization, note, in which secularism was born.

POSTSCRIPT

Is it true that many non-deist biblical scholars are the children of religious households, even of an ordained father? The answer is, I suspect, “yes,” because this is the way in which people acquire a knowledge of and interest in the Bible that is developed enough to impel them towards a career studying it and its workings. Such a biography says little about the motives of these biblical scholars, despite the jibes of theists that we are all rebelling against a religious upbringing.

My father was a Baptist minister – a learned, gentle, humorous and courageous man, genuinely liberal, and a lover (as I am) of the Bible that he knew pretty well. But despite my continued affection for him (he died over twenty years ago) I moved from being an Agnostic to being an Atheist through reading the Bible, and through reading what people (scholars, mostly) said about it. I have faith in the power of literature to change people’s minds, and in the power of this classic to wean people away from theism. I have a few acquaintances who admit to the same. I wonder how many readers of this article might be able to offer the same testimony.


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~Educated at Oxford and St. Andrews, Dr Davies is a professor in the Department of Biblical Studies at the University of Sheffield in England and a recognized authority on the Dead Sea Scrolls. He is co-founder and co-publisher of Sheffield Academic Press and serves as the editor of the Journal for the Study of the Old Testament. In addition to four books on the Dead Sea Scrolls, his books include IN SEARCH OF ANCIENT ISRAEL and WHOSE BIBLE IS IT ANYWAY? Among the many articles of which he can boast is an essay on the film MONTY PYTHON’S LIFE OF BRIAN, which he declares is “still the most historically authentic biblical movie yet made.”


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BUDDHA AS FICTION

Athough it is widely believed that "the Buddha" was a real person who lived about 2600 years ago, it can be demonstrated that, as he is portrayed within orthodox Buddhism, Buddha is legendary and mythical. As concerns the supposed historicity of Buddha, the following are excerpts from the excellent book Pagan Christs by J M Robertson. Robertson was a true scholar, and he provided invaluable and sound research. More information regarding the mythical nature of Buddha and the solar origins of Buddhism can be found in this interesting website Suns of God: Buddha, Krishna and Christ Unveiled, which also compares the exceeding number of virgin births in most religions, the similarities between Buddha and Jesus and relevant plagiarisms, and so on and so forth... in fact, this could go on forever -- and all for the benefit of human gullibility!

THE BUDDHA MYTH

by JM Robertson


According to tradition, the founder of Buddhism was a Hindu named Siddhattha, son of the rajah of the Sakyan clan which dwelt in the foothills of the Himalayas. He is sometimes referred to as a Sakyamuni (muni meaning Sage), sometimes as Tathagata (literally "One who has come, or gone, This Far"), more usually as Gotama Buddha. The term Buddha is a title, not a personal name. Gotama is referred to as the Buddha after his Enlightenment, which is reputed to have occurred in 528 B.C. in Bihar. Thereafter he abandoned family life and promulgated his doctrine of deliverance from suffering and attainment of ultimate peace, Nirvana.

His teaching is called the Dhamma (Sanskrit Dharma), and is summed up in the Four Noble Truths and the Noble Eightfold Path....

There were many sects and sages in India 2500 years ago, but their teachings were transmitted orally. The Buddhist Dhamma was not written down for centuries after it had been first enunciated. The various Sanskrit and Pali texts which purport to contain the original teachings are therefore the product of evolution, and it is impossible to say which of the divergent interpretations, if any, represents the pristine form. What is quite certain is that the underlying philosophy had a great deal in common with ideas prevalent at the time. It bears some resemblance to the contemporary Jainist movement.

The breakaway from Hindu ritualism was not a unique innovation; neither was there anything new in the founding of an order of monks. Various sects were already organized as mendicant monks, and it was an established custom for them to meet periodically and proclaim their teaching in public. The early Buddhists followed this familiar pattern. They made modifications, of course, and one feature was the rejection of the severe austerities which were practiced by some of the sects.

Indian Buddha
The Series of Buddha

Not only have we no six-century record of the rules of the Buddhist Sangha, as the order was called, but it did not claim to be a new teaching. The tradition holds that it had been promulgated many times before--that Gotama was only one of a long series of Buddhas who arise at intervals and who all teach the same doctrine. The names of twenty-four of such Buddhas who appeared before Gotama have been recorded. The number and names may well be late inventions, but there can be no question about the belief in their existence. It was held that after the death of each Buddha, his religion flourishes for a time and then decays. After it is forgotten, a new Buddha emerges and preaches the lost Dhamma, or Truth. In the fourth century A.D., a sect of Buddhists rejected Gotama and venerated instead the three previous Buddhas. They especially reverenced one of them, Kasyapa, and were actually joined in by the orthodox in worship as his tomb.

It seems quite probable in the light of these facts that any number of teachings attributed to "the Buddha" may have been in existence either before or at the time when Gotama was believed to have lived. They might all have been attributed to a sage with the title of "the Blessed One." They might include teachings that were ascribed later to Gotama.

The name Gotama is a common one; it is also full of mythological associations. There was admittedly another Gotama known to the early Buddhists, who founded an order. So what proof is there that the sayings and doings of different Gotamas may not have been ascribed to one person?...

The Documentary Evidence

...Looking then, for a foothold among the shifting sands of Buddhist tradition we note the following clashing records:

(1) The Buddha is represented in ostensibly early and late tradition as speaking of the Gods with full belief in their existence.

(2) He is represented on the one hand as discouraging sacrifices, and on the other as prescribing for a whole tribe a strict adherence to ancient rites.

(3) King Asoka, who figured as a good Buddhist in the early vigor of the movement, about 250 B.C., habitually called himself "the delight of the Gods" as did his contemporary, the pious Buddhist king of Ceylon.

(4) The Buddha is represented as throwing his Order open to all classes and at the same time making the name "Brahmin" a term of honor for his Arahats and saints. Brahmins were among the most distinguished disciples.

(5) On the principle that Buddha delivered the whole cannon, much teaching that certainly did not come from him is ascribed to him.

(6) Much of the philosophy set forth as his teaching is identical with the Sankhya system, germs of which are admittedly pre-Buddhistic.

What doctrines, it must now be asked, were special to Buddhism? Not Karma, that was common property which Buddhism shared. Not in asserting that a right mind was superior to sacrifice, that was a primary doctrine of the Jains, and pre-Buddhistic, both within and without the pale of Brahmanism. Not in seeking a way to salvation independently of the Vedas, that had been done by many teachers in various sects. Not in the doctrine that defilement comes not from unclean meats but from evil deeds and words and thoughts; Buddhist writers themselves say that is derived from previous Buddhas. Not in the search for peace through self-control and renunciation; that was the quest of a myriad recluses and all previous Buddhas. Not in the view that there is a higher wisdom than that attained by austerities; that, too, is pre-Buddhistic. Not in the doctrine that non-Brahmans could join an Order and attain religious blessedness; other orders were open to men of low social status and even to slaves. Indeed, the rigid separation of caste was not yet established in the early days of Buddhism. Brahmin claims were exorbitantly high, but many Brahmins waived them and they did not apply to ascetics. Early Buddhists, like the early Christians, did not admit runaway slaves to the Order.

The admission of women was not an innovation as it was practiced by the Jains, and even the tradition makes the Buddha accept it reluctantly in the twenty-fifth year of his preaching. There seems, in short, to be nothing on the face of the doctrine to account for the expansion of the Buddhist movement....

Buddha as a Secondary God

We can now make a critical assessment of Buddhist origins. The Teaching Buddha, considered as the wondrous sage who established a great Order in his lifetime, shrinks to vanishing point. The suspicion that Sakyamuni is an unreal being is finally justified. The Order probably originated among ascetic Brahmins who may have been led to rationalism as a result of renouncing the Vedas....

Objections Answered

It is reasonable to wonder why so many scholars, while admitting the tissue of fable and unplausible history surrounding the origins of Buddhism, nevertheless still believe that Sakyamuni actually existed. They usually justify their attitude by the argument that every sect must have had a founder. This assumption can be allowed if it is merely taken to mean that someone must have begun the formation of any given group. It is clearly not true in the sense that every sect originates in the new teaching of a remarkable personage.

As we have seen, there was in all probability a group of heretical Brahmanists for whom a Buddha signified "the enlightened one." Even so, there were many Buddhas before the quasi-historical Buddha had acquired a personality, like the slain Jesus of the Pauline Epistles....

A sufficient nucleus for the Buddha lay in the general Brahmanic concept of "Buddhas." There is even a tradition that at the time when Sakyamuni came, many men ran about saying "I am the Buddha."...

On these grounds it is submitted that the figure of the Buddha, in its most plausibly rationalized form, is as unhistorical as that of the gospel Jesus. Each figure shows how the religious mind manufactured a myth in a period in which the making of primary Gods had given way to the making of Secondary-gods. The mythopoeic process satisfied the craving for a Teacher-god who should originate religious and moral ideas as the earlier gods had been held to originate agriculture, art, medicine, law and civilization.

Buddhism, like Christianity, is a "failure" from the point of view of its traditional origins. In the case of Burma it admittedly did more to mold the life of the whole people towards its highest ethic than Christianity ever did; but in India, where it arose, it collapsed utterly. It was overthrown by Brahmanism which set up in its place a revived polytheism.

On our naturalistic view of the rise of the Teaching-gods, it is sheer human aspiration that has shaped all the Christs and their doctrines. One reason why the original teachings fail is that men persisted in crediting purely human aspiration to supernatural beings. Men who are taught to bow ethically to a divine Teacher are not taught ethically to think. Any aspiration so evoked is factitious, verbal, emotional, not reached by authentic thought and experience. When the wisdom or unwisdom of the nameless thinkers in all ages is recognized for what it is--as human and not divine--the nations may become capable of working out for themselves better gospels than the best of those which turned to naught in their hands while they held them as revelations from the skies.


...and, finally, for a good laugh:

~ Reposted from the Atheists of Silicon Valley, as adapted from The Secular Web - The Internet Infidels.

(NOTE: For real proofs of the nonexistence of any god, see Why Atheism? For other evidence, go to Atheists of Silicon Valley debate page.)


666 PROOFS OF GOD'S EXISTENCE

1. TRANSCENDENTAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. PRESUPPOSITIONALIST (I)
(1) If reason exists then God exists.
(2) Reason exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
2. COSMOLOGICAL ARGUMENT, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (I)
(1) If I say something must have a cause, it has a cause.
(2) I say the universe must have a cause.
(3) Therefore, the universe has a cause.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
3. ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) I define God to be X.
(2) Since I can conceive of X, X must exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
4. ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) I can conceive of a perfect God.
(2) One of the qualities of perfection is existence.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
5. MODAL ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) God is either necessary or unnecessary.
(2) God is not unnecessary, therefore God must be necessary.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
6. TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (I), a.k.a. DESIGN ARGUMENT
(1) Check out the world/universe/giraffe. Isn't it complex?
(2) Only God could have made them so complex.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
7. ARGUMENT FROM BEAUTY, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Isn't that baby/sunset/flower/tree beautiful?
(2) Only God could have made them so beautiful.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
8. ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES (I)
(1) My aunt had cancer.
(2) The doctors gave her all these horrible treatments.
(3) My aunt prayed to God and now she doesn't have cancer.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
9. MORAL ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Person X, a well-known Atheist, was morally inferior to the rest of us.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
10. MORAL ARGUMENT (II)
(1) In my younger days I was a cursing, drinking, smoking, gambling, child-molesting, thieving, murdering, bed-wetting bastard.
(2) That all changed once I became religious.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
11. ARGUMENT FROM CREATION, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (I)
(1) If evolution is false, then creationism is true, and therefore God exists.
(2) Evolution can't be true, since I lack the mental capacity to understand it; moreover, to accept its truth would cause me to be uncomfortable.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
12. ARGUMENT FROM FEAR
(1) If there is no God then we're all going to not exist after we die.
(2) I'm afraid of that. (3) Therefore, God exists.
13. ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE
(1) [arbitrary passage from OT]
(2) [arbitrary passage from NT]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
14. ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENCE
(1) Look, there's really no point in me trying to explain the whole thing to you stupid Atheists — it's too complicated for you to understand. God exists whether you like it or not.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
15. ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENCE
(1) Okay, I don't pretend to be as intelligent as you guys — you're obviously very well read. But I read the Bible, and nothing you say can convince me that God does not exist. I feel him in my heart, and you can feel him too, if you'll just ask him into your life. "For God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son into the world, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish from the earth." John 3:16.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
16. ARGUMENT FROM BELIEF
(1) If God exists, then I should believe in Him.
(2) I believe in God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
17. ARGUMENT FROM INTIMIDATION
(1) See this bonfire?
(2) Therefore, God exists.
18. PARENTAL ARGUMENT
(1) My mommy and daddy told me that God exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
19. ARGUMENT FROM NUMBERS
(1) Millions and millions of people believe in God.
(2) They can't all be wrong, can they?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
20. ARGUMENT FROM ABSURDITY
(1) Maranathra!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
21. ARGUMENT FROM ECONOMY
(1) God exists, you bastards!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
22. BOATWRIGHT'S ARGUMENT
(1) Ha ha ha.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
23. DORE'S ARGUMENT
(1) I forgot to take my meds.
(2) Therefore, I AM CHRIST!!
(3) Therefore, God exists.
24. ARGUMENT FROM GUITAR MASTERY
(1) Eric Clapton is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
25. ARGUMENT FROM INTERNET AUTHORITY
(1) There is a website that successfully argues for the existence of God.
(2) Here is the URL.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
26. ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPREHENSIBILITY
(1) Flabble glurk zoom boink blubba snurgleschnortz ping!
(2) No one has ever refuted (1).
(3) Therefore, God exists.
27. ARGUMENT FROM AMERICAN EVANGELISM
(1) Telling people that God exists makes me filthy rich.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
28. MITCHELL'S ARGUMENT
(1) The Christian God exists.
(2) Therefore, all worldviews which don't assume the Christian God's existence are false and incomprehensible.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
29. ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (I)
(1) Atheists are spiritually blind.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
30. ARGUMENT FROM BLINDNESS (II)
(1) God is love.
(2) Love is blind.
(3) Stevie Wonder is blind.
(4) Therefore, Stevie Wonder is God.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
31. ARGUMENT FROM FALLIBILITY
(1) Human reasoning is inherently flawed.
(2) Therefore, there is no reasonable way to challenge a proposition.
(3) I propose that God exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
32. ARGUMENT FROM SMUGNESS
(1) God exists.
(2) I don't give a crap whether you believe it or not; I have better things to do than to try to convince you morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
33. ARGUMENT FROM META-SMUGNESS
(1) Fuck you.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
34. ARGUMENT FROM MANIFESTATIONS
(1) If you turn your head sideways and squint a little, you can see an image of a bearded face in that tortilla.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
35. SLATHER'S ARGUMENT
(1) My toaster is God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
36. ARGUMENT FROM INCOMPLETE DEVASTATION
(1) A plane crashed killing 143 passengers and crew.
(2) But one child survived with only third-degree burns.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
37. ARGUMENT FROM POSSIBLE WORLDS
(1) If things had been different, then things would be different.
(2) That would be bad.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
38. ARGUMENT FROM SHEER WILL
(1) I DO believe in God! I DO believe in God! I do I do I do I DO believe in God!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
39. ARGUMENT FROM NONBELIEF
(1) The majority of the world's population are nonbelievers in Christianity.
(2) This is just what Satan intended.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
40. ARGUMENT FROM POST-DEATH EXPERIENCE
(1) Person X died an Atheist.
(2) He now realizes his mistake.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
41. ARGUMENT FROM EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL
(1) God loves you.
(2) How could you be so heartless to not believe in him?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
42. ARGUMENT FROM SACRIFICIAL BLACKMAIL
(1) Jesus died for your sins.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
43. ARGUMENT FROM INCOHERENT BABBLE
(1) See that person spazzing on the church floor babbling incoherently?
(2) That's how infinite wisdom reveals itself.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
44. OPRAH'S ARGUMENT (I)
(1) The human spirit exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
45. OPRAH'S ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Check out this video segment.
(2) Now how can anyone watch that and NOT believe in God?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
46. CALVINIST ARGUMENT, a.k.a. TERTULLIAN'S ARGUMENT
(1) If God exists, then he will let me watch you be tortured forever.
(2) I rather like that idea.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
47. ARGUMENT FROM CROCKERY
(1) Pots don't go around giving orders to the potter.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
48. ARGUMENT FROM MASS PRODUCTION
(1) Barbie dolls were created.
(2) If Barbie dolls were created, then so were trees.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
49. ARGUMENT FROM PAROCHIALISM
(1) God is everywhere.
(2) We haven't been everywhere to prove he's not there.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
50. ARGUMENT FROM UPPERCASE ASSERTION
(1) GOD EXISTS! GET USED TO IT!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
51. ARGUMENT FROM INFINITE REGRESS, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (II)
(1) Ask Atheists what caused the Big Bang.
(2) Regardless of their answer, ask how they know this.
(3) Continue process until the Atheist admits he doesn't know the answer to one of your questions.
(4) You win!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
52. ARGUMENT FROM INCREDULITY
(1) How could God NOT exist, you bozo?
(2) Therefore, God exists.
53. ARGUMENT FROM HISTORY
(1) The Bible is true.
(2) Therefore, the Bible is historical fact.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
54. ARGUMENT FROM RESURRECTION
(1) Proof of God's existence will be available when you rise bodily from your grave.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
55. ARGUMENT FROM BIOGENESIS
(1) Where did Adam come from, dummy?
(2) Therefore, God exists.
56. ARGUMENT FROM STEADFAST FAITH
(1) A lot of really cool people believed in God their entire lives.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
57. ARGUMENT FROM LONELINESS
(1) Christians say that Jesus is their best friend.
(2) I'm lonely, and I want a best friend.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
58. ARGUMENT FROM ARGUMENTATION
(1) God exists.
(2) [Atheist's counterargument]
(3) Yes he does.
(4) [Atheist's counterargument]
(5) Yes he does!
(6) [Atheist's counterargument]
(7) YES HE DOES!!!
(8) [Atheist gives up and goes home.]
(9) Therefore, God exists.
59. ARGUMENT FROM CREATIVE INTERPRETATION
(1) God is:
(a) The feeling you have when you look at a newborn baby.
(b) The love of a mother for her child.
(c) That little still voice in your heart.
(d) Humankind's potential to overcome their difficulties.
(e) How I feel when I look at a sunset.
(f) The taste of ice cream on a hot day.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
60. ARGUMENT FROM INSECURITY
(1) We have gone to absolutely berserk lengths to establish that Atheists are laughable morons.
(1.5) Actually, we did so in the hopes of curing our own insecurities about theism — but there's no chance in hell we'll ever admit that.
(2) Therefore, Atheists are laughable morons.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
61. ARGUMENT FROM SUPERIORITY
(1) If God does not exist, then I am an inferior being, since I am not "special" in a cosmic sense.
(2) But I am superior because I am a Christian.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
62. ARGUMENT FROM ABSOLUTE MORAL STANDARDS
(1) If there are absolute moral standards, then God exists.
(2) Atheists say that there are no absolute moral standards.
(3) But that's because they don't want to admit to being sinners.
(4) Therefore, there are absolute moral standards.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
63. ARGUMENT FROM HUMAN NECESSITY
(1) Atheists say that they don't need God.
(2) Which just goes to show that they need God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
64. ARGUMENT FROM HIDDEN LOGIC (I)
(1) Intellectually, I know that the existence of God is impossible, or vastly improbable.
(2) But I must put on the appearance of being cool and intellectual in front of my Christian apologist peers.
(3) Therefore, I must pretend that (1) is false.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
65. ARGUMENT FROM HIDDEN LOGIC (II)
(1) Atheists say that God doesn't exist.
(2) But they only say that because they want to look cool and intellectual in front of their peers.
(3) They don't fool me!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
66. ARGUMENT FROM INDULGENCE
(1) Atheists like to think that they can control their emotional desires.
(2) But they're Atheists, so they can't.
(3) Therefore, Atheists feel the need to indulge in whatever they feel like without worrying about committing sin.
(4) This just goes to show how they need God in their lives.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
67. ARGUMENT FROM HATE
(1) Some Atheists hate Christians and Christianity.
(2) That's why they don't believe in God.
(3) Pathetic, aren't they?
(4) Therefore, God exists.
68. ARGUMENT FROM QUENTIN SMITH
(1) Quentin Smith says that God does not exist.
(2) But God does exist.
(3) Therefore, Quentin Smith cannot be accepted as an expert on the matter, because he is wrong.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
69. ARGUMENT FROM EVIL SPIRITS
(1) I've just had contact with evil spirits.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
70. ARGUMENT FROM KENT HOVIND
(1) I don't want to work for a living.
(2) I don't want to pay taxes.
(3) I can get gullible fundamentalists to send me money.
(4) I can use religious exemption claims to tie the IRS up in court.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
71. ARGUMENT FROM KENT HOVIND'S CHALLENGE
(1) Kent Hovind offers $250,000 (which may or may not exist) to anyone who can demonstrate evolution (defined as a natural, acausal origin of the universe) to a reasonable doubt (meaning with 100% certainty, allowing for no other possibilities whatsoever) in front of a neutral committee (handpicked by Hovind himself) and according to certain criteria (carefully worded so as to rule out any possibility whatsoever of the challenge ever being met).
(2) No Atheist has ever met this challenge.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
72. ARGUMENT FROM INSANITY
(1) No sane person could have thought up Christianity.
(2) Therefore, it must be true
(3) Therefore, God exists.
73. ARGUMENT FROM EXHAUSTION (abridged)
(1) Do you agree with the utterly trivial proposition X?
(2) Atheist: of course.
(3) How about the slightly modified proposition X'?
(4) Atheist: Um, no, not really.
(5) Good. Since we agree, how about Y? Is that true?
(6) Atheist: No! And I didn't agree with X'!
(7) With the truths of these clearly established, surely you agree that Z is true as well?
(8) Atheist: No. So far I have only agreed with X! Where is this going, anyway?
(9) I'm glad we all agree.....
....
(37) So now we have used propositions X, X', Y, Y', Z, Z', P, P', Q and Q' to arrive at the obviously valid point R. Agreed?
(38) Atheist: Like I said, so far I've only agreed with X. Where is this going?
....
(81) So we now conclude from this that propositions L'', L''' and J'' are true. Agreed?
(82) I HAVEN'T AGREED WITH ANYTHING YOU'VE SAID SINCE X! WHERE IS THIS GOING?
....
(177) ...and it follows that proposition HRV, SHQ'' and BTU' are all obviously valid. Agreed?
(178) [Atheist either faints from overwork or leaves in disgust.]
(179) Therefore, God exists.
74. MR. GOODSALT'S ARGUMENT (ARGUMENT FROM GENERAL INQUIRY)
(1) Question for Atheist population: [apparently random question]
(2) Your answer is wrong.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
75. PEACOCK ARGUMENT FROM ORIGINALITY
(1) I have written the following to demonstrate the existence of God.
(2) [insert entire text of a William Lane Craig article]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
76. PEACOCK ARGUMENT FROM LIMITED VOCABULARY
(1) You use lots of big words.
(2) Therefore, I cannot possibly be expected to understand your refutation of my position.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
77. PEACOCK ARGUMENT FROM SELECTIVE MEMORY
(1) [Christian asks "stumper" question.]
(2) [Atheist answers question.]
(3) [A lapse of time]
(4) [Christian repeats question.]
(5) [Atheist repeats answer.]
(6) [A lapse of time]
(7) [Christian repeats question.]
(8) [Atheist repeats answer.]
(9) [A lapse of time]
(10) Atheist, you never answered my question.
(11) Therefore, God exists.
78. ARGUMENT FROM DIVINE ECONOMICS
(1) Protestant Christian nations are rich.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
79. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL SANITY
(1) I've had religious experiences that can't be explained unless I'm insane or God exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
80. ARGUMENT FROM INSTITUTIONAL LONGETIVITY
(1) The Roman Catholic Church has been around for a long time.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
81. ARGUMENT FROM INEVITABILITY
(1) I have proof that God exists.
(2) I won't bother to tell you what it is because, being Atheists, you would be hostile to the conclusion anyway.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
82. ARGUMENT FROM "THE MATRIX"
(1) We cannot prove that we don't live in a Matrix-like world.
(2) Therefore we cannot know reality.
(3) If reality is contingent, then everything is possible.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
83. ARGUMENT FROM SUBJECTIVITY
(1) Everything is subjective.
(2) No subjective proof can be superior to any other subjective proof.
(3) Based upon my subjective opinion, your opinion, that if everything is subjective then, perforce, God is subjective, is false.
(4) Therefore, God (objectively) exists.
84. ARGUMENT FROM POSTMODERNISM
(1) I'm going to prove to you that God exists.
(2) [Insert any of the other arguments on this page in here.]
(3) [Atheist refutes argument.]
(4) I cannot prove there is a God any more than anyone of us can prove we really exist in a tangible world.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
85. META-PROOF
(1) This is a proof of God's existence.
(2) If the reader finishes reading this proof, the existence of God will be proven to him/her.
(3) If the existence of God is proven, then God exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
86. PROOF BY ANECDOTE
(1) God can be seen by those who believe in Him.
(2) If the God is seen, then He must exist.
(3) I have seen God.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
87. ARGUMENT FROM BIBLICAL HISTORY
(1) Many modern historians think that there probably was somebody named Jesus, maybe.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
88. BENDER’S ARGUMENT (I)
(1) One day, demons were tap-dancing on my roof. I prayed and they went away.
(2) Therefore, demons are really good dancers.
(3) Also, God exists.
89. BENDER’S ARGUMENT (II) (ARGUMENT FROM DAVID BLAINE)
(1) If David Blaine does real magic, then God exists.
(2) It looked real on his TV special.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
90. RANDMAN’S ARGUMENT
(1) This entry from the 1975 World Book Encyclopedia on evolution contains some errors that I claim to have already substantiated.
(2) Mr. Ph.D.-in-Evolutionary-Biology, this proves that evolution is an unsound scientific concept.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
91. ARGUMENT FROM MULTIPLICITY (I), a.k.a. METACROCK'S ARGUMENT
(1) I have a large number of arguments for God.
(2) One of them is probably true.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
92. ARGUMENT FROM FORTUITOUS COINCIDENCE
(1) What are the odds of that happening?
(2) Pretty long, I’ll bet.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
93. ARGUMENT FROM MYSTERIOUS USE OF PREPOSITIONS
(1) It is impossible to disprove God with your puny human intellect unless you are above God.
(2) Are you higher than God?
(3) I’ll take that puzzled look on your face as a no.
(4) Therefore, God (being the highest thing ever) exists.
94. ARGUMENT FROM TEEN CHRISTIAN MOVEMENT
(1) God is so totally awesome, dude, and if you would pretend that Creed and POD were good bands, you would realize that.
(2) Also, our Youth Group leader Skip once, like, cured a broken leg using only the power of the almighty Lord.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
95. ARGUMENT FROM SPEAKING IN TOUNGES
(1) My friend here, once started spontaneously speaking some jibberish that sounded to me kind of like Russian.
(2) But neither he nor I know anything about Russian.
(3) The only explanation is God.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
96. ARGUMENT FROM EUROPEAN HISTORY
(1) Many prominent thinkers in pre-modern Europe believed in God.
(2) Let’s just forget about the nineteenth and twentieth centuries.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
97. ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN (I), a.k.a. PALEY'S ARGUMENT, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (III)
(1) If there is a designer, then God must exist.
(2) If I find a watch in a forest, there must be a designer.
(3) [Throws watch into forest.]
(4) Therefore, God exists.
98. ARGUMENT FROM DESIGN (II), a.k.a. GOD OF THE GAPS, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (II), a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (IV)
(1) Isn't X amazing!
(2) I don't understand how X could be, without something else (that I don't really understand either) making or doing X.
(3) This something else must be God because I can't come up with a better explanation.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
99. ARGUMENT FROM OFFENSE
(1) God exists.
(2) [Atheist makes counterarguments.]
(3) You know what? I am offended.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
100. ARGUMENT FROM PRAYER
(1) God exists.
(2) [Atheist makes counterarguments.]
(3) You have my prayers.
101. ARGUMENT FROM AGNOSTICISM
(1) I don't know and you don't know either.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
102. ARGUMENT FROM LOVE
(1) Have you ever fallen in love?
(2) [Of course!!]
(3) So what is the cause of love? Isn't it God? Am I right or not?
(4) Therefore, God exists.
103. ARGUMENT FROM IDENTITY (PC ARGUMENT)
(1) Believing in God is a central part of my identity.
(2) You don't mean to deny my identity do you?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
104. ARGUMENT FROM FORMATTING
(1) Behold, foolish Atheists, I present you with an incontrovertible proof of the existence of God.
(2) [Christian posts 10,000 word document without a single paragraph break.]
(3) [Atheists' eyes implode.]
(4) I see that nobody can refute (2).
(5) Therefore, God exists.
105. ARGUMENT FROM NON-CONFRONTATION
(1) I am not here to argue with you Atheists.
(2) But come on, God obviously exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
106. ARGUMENT FROM EXODUS
(1) If the Exodus story has any basis in historical fact, then God exists.
(2) Some guy found some chariot wheels at the bottom of the Red Sea.
(3) There is absolutely no other way that chariots could get to the bottom of the Red Sea.
(4) This means the Exodus story is true.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
107. ARGUMENT FROM MARTYRDOM
(1) The apostles would not have died for something they knew wasn't true.
(2) Atheist gives examples of martyrs outside Christendom.
(3) Obviously those examples were fooled by Satan.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
108. ARGUMENT FROM TINKERBELL
(1) I really want God to be real.
(2) If you wish for something really hard, it'll come true.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
109. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF DISPROOF
(1) You can't prove God doesn't exist!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
110. ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE (I)
(1) I once experienced something I can't explain.
(2) [Atheists offer several possible, natural explanations.]
(3) You're just guessing! I was there.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
111. ARGUMENT FROM ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE (II)
(1) I have experienced feelings of God's presence in my mind.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
112. ARGUMENT FROM NEUROSCIENCE
(1) Scientists say a portion of our brain may be responsible for mystical experiences.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
113. ARGUMENT FROM EYEWITNESS (sometimes follows or combined with Lack of Eyewitness I)
(1) Someone wrote the creation story in the Bible.
(2) That someone must have been an eyewitness to the described events.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
114. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF EYEWITNESS (I)
(1) You weren't there to witness abiogenisis/Big Bang/etc.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
115. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF EYEWITNESS (II)
(1) No one's ever seen one species turn into another.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
116. ARGUMENT FROM HALF A WING
(1) Half of a wing is useless!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
117. ARGUMENT FROM PREFERRED ANCESTRY
(1) I don't want to be related to monkeys.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
118. ARGUMENT FROM FOOLISHNESS
(1) The Bible says Atheists are fools.
(2) I don't want to be a fool.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
119. ARGUMENT FROM PIG'S TEETH
(1) Some scientists once thought a tooth was from an "ape-man."
(2) Later scientists discovered it was a pig's tooth.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
120. ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (I)
(1) Someone made fun of my faith.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
121. ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (II)
(1) Jesus said that people would make fun of Christians.
(2) I am an idiot.
(3) People often point that out.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
122. ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (III)
(1) You Atheists are mean!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
123. ARGUMENT FROM JESUS SAID STUFF
(1) Jesus said some really cool stuff.
(2) No one else had said that stuff.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
124. ARGUMENT FROM DIFFERENCES
(1) The Christian God is different than the gods of other religions.
(2) Therefore, the Christian God exists.
125. ARGUMENT FROM CHRISTIAN MORALITY (although it could probably be adapted to just about any religion)
(1) Somewhere, someone who called himself or herself a Christian did something nice.
(2) This person was probably not lying.
(3) Therefore, this person was a Christian.
(4) Therefore, Christians do nice things.
(5) Therefore, Christians are moral.
(6) Christians believe in the Bible.
(7) Therefore, the Bible is moral.
(8) The Bible is God's word. It says so.
(9) Therefore, God is moral.
(10) (We are just ignoring all the not-nice things that Christians may or may not have done in the past, it's hard to trust history anyway, there are enemies of God working everywhere).
(11) A moral God would be really nice.
(12) Therefore, God exists.
126. ARGUMENT FROM CRAZINESS, a.k.a. PERCHANCE'S SISTER'S ARGUMENT (I)
(1) I would go crazy if I didn't believe in God.
(2) I am not crazy.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
127. ARGUMENT FROM CHOCOLATE, a.k.a. MRS. POPE'S PROOF
(1) Chocolate is God's gift to humanity.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
(3) Now class, would anyone like to attempt an Argument From Beer?
128. ARGUMENT FROM WWJD
(1) I have the “What Would Jesus Do?” T-shirt, bracelet, baseball hat, and shoelaces.
(2) I wear them in public.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
129. ARGUMENT FROM INTEREST
(1) If God really doesn’t exist than Atheists wouldn’t spend so much time talking about him.
(2) [Atheist refutes (1).]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
130. REID’S ARGUMENT
(1) You assume that your senses are reliable even though you can’t prove it.
(2) That means I get to assume anything I want.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
131. ARGUMENT FROM INTELLECTUAL SUPERIORITY
(1) [Christian posts argument.]
(2) [Atheist refutes argument.]
(3) Atheist, you obviously didn’t understand my argument.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
132. ARGUMENT FROM CATCH-PHRASE
(1) There are no Atheists in foxholes.
(2) [Atheist points out Atheists in foxholes.]
(3) They don’t count.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
133. TERCEL’S ARGUMENT (ARGUMENT FROM PROBABILITY)
(1) We should believe what probably is true.
(2) I have arbitrarily assigned the proposition “God exists” a probability of 0.75.
(3) That probability came from my ass, which I know assigns extremely accurate probabilities to propositions concerning the existence of God.
(4) So God probably exists.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
134. ARGUMENT FROM FREE GIFT, a.k.a. Kissing Hank's Ass (I)
(1) If some guy came up to you on the street and offered you a billion dollars for nothing in return, would you take the money or deny his existence?
(2) Therefore, God exists.
135. ARGUMENT FROM CHARITY
(1) Atheists don’t build hospitals.
(2) [Atheist points out Bill Gates and Ted Turner, who donate millions of dollars to charity.]
(3) Yes, but do they build hospitals?
(4) Therefore, God exists.
136. ARGUMENT FROM SERIOUS ASSERTION
(1) God exists.
(2) No, seriously.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
137. ARGUMENT FROM POSITIVE OUTCOME
(1) Even if God doesn’t exist, it would be better if people believed He did.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
138. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF EVIDENCE (I)
(1) I believe that if God exists, there will be no evidence for his existence.
(2) There is no evidence for the existence of God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
139. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF EVIDENCE (II) (MODIFIED SIMPSON’S ARGUMENT)
(1) God, if you exist, please give me absolutely no sign.
(2)
(3) Therefore, God exists.
140. ARGUMENT FROM IDIOCY
(1) I am an idiot.
(2) Even an idiot can see that God exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
141. ARGUMENT FROM TERRORISM (I)
(1) Terrorists destroyed the WTC, killing thousands.
(2) One piece of the rubble sort of looks like a cross.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
142. ARGUMENT FROM TERRORISM (II)
(1) A plane was hijacked by terrorists.
(2) The passengers prayed and attacked the terrorists.
(3) The plane crashed into a field, killing all aboard.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
143. ARGUMENT FROM TERRORISM (III), a.k.a. PERCHANCE'S SISTER'S ARGUMENT (II)
(1) September 11th was really, really bad.
(2) We have bad things happen to us when we're doing something bad.
(3) Therefore, September 11th was a punishment for something we did.
(4) Maybe it was being arrogant?
(5) Yeah, that's it!
(6) God let September 11th happen to teach America humility.
(7) Therefore, God exists.
144. ARGUMENT FROM MASS MURDER
(1) Stalin was an Atheist.
(2) He murdered millions of people.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
145. ARGUMENT FROM TORNADOS
(1) A large tornado hit Kansas City.
(2) The tornado missed a church but destroyed several hundred homes.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
146. ARGUMENT FROM SPAGHETTI
(1) A few people saw something weird in a bowl of spaghetti.
(2) Some Catholics believe that it is the Virgin Mary.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
147. ARGUMENT FROM MONEY
(1) All U.S. currency contains the motto "In God We Trust."
(2) Therefore, God exists.
148. ARGUMENT FROM THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE (I)
(1) The Pledge clearly states that America is "one nation, under God * * *."
(2) The existence of God is thus a necessary condition for the existence of America.
(3) America exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
149. ARGUMENT FROM THE FOUNDING FATHERS (I)
(1) Some of America's Founding Fathers wrote favorably about the Bible.
(2) The Founding Fathers were really, really smart.
(3) Accordingly, the Bible must be true.
(4) The Bible says that God exists.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
150. ARGUMENT FROM THE FOUNDING FATHERS (II)
(1) The Declaration of Independence includes the words "God" and "Creator".
(2) Only a Christian would include the words "God" and "Creator"!
(3) Therefore this is a Christian Nation.
(4) A Christian Nation couldn't last over 200 years without God's help.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
151. ARGUMENT FROM THE FALL OF PAGAN ROME
(1) When Jesus was crucified, the Roman Empire was pagan, ruled by a pagan Emperor.
(2) A couple of hundred years later, lots of Romans were Christians, and the Emperor was a Christian too!
(3) Therefore, God exists.
152. ARGUMENT FROM LOTS OF BOOKS
(1) The Bible has lots of books written by lots of authors over a long period of time.
(2) Through centuries of vigorous apologetics we've been able to forge a more or less coherent plot for the whole Bible.
(3) It is beyond human ability for so many authors over so long a time to write so many books from which we could hammer such a plot.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
153. ARGUMENT FROM UNLIKE OTHER RELIGIONS (I) (argument from sacrifice)
(1) The Bible said Jesus died for our sins.
(2) No other religious text describes a god that died for our sins!
(3) Therefore, the Christian God exists.
154. ARGUMENT FROM UNLIKE OTHER RELIGIONS (II) (argument from resurrection)
(1) The Bible said Jesus rose from the dead.
(2) No other religious text describes a god that rose from the dead!
(3) Therefore, the Christian God exists.
155. ARGUMENT FROM BRUTE FORCE
(1) [Christian tears Darwin Fish off car, breaks it in thirds, sticks it to driver's side window.]
(2) Therefore, the theory of evolution is wrong.
(3) Therefore, creationism is right.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
156. ARGUMENT FROM TROY
(1) There is little archeological evidence for the events in Exodus.
(2) But look at Troy! It was discovered when people thought the Iliad was only a story! So who knows if there would be a time evidence for Exodus was discovered?
(3) Therefore the Exodus actually happened.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
157. ARGUMENT FROM BIBLICAL PROPHECY (I)
(1) The book of Daniel made some prophecies.
(2) The prophecy was later fulfilled by other records in the Book of Daniel.
(3) The prophecy came true!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
158. ARGUMENT FROM SHAME
(1) The Bible showed a group of people performing embarassing actions.
(2) It must be true if the book describes negative events.
(3) The Bible is describing historical events.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
159. ARGUMENT FROM EQUAL VALUE (PC argument II)
(1) Evolution and the scientific worldview is a worldview. Similarly, the biblical worldview is a worldview.
(2) You are not discriminating against our worldview are you?
(3) The Biblical worldview is as good as the scientific worldview.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
160. ARGUMENT FROM MODERATION (often employed by liberals)
(1) The Creationist side occupies an extreme side of the spectrum.
(2) Similarly, the Atheist side occupies another extreme side of the spectrum.
(3) The liberals are in between.
(4) Therefore, the liberal position on God is the most correct.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
161. ARGUMENT FROM JACK CHICK
(1) I have all these cool Jesus comics.
(2) I also think Eternal is smart with all those great arguments.
(3) Those comics sure convinced me!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
162. ARGUMENT FROM EVIDENTIAL ASSERTION, a.k.a. "Henry Morris' Argument"
(1) God exists.
(2) Therefore all physical evidence (fossil record etc) must show this.
(3) Therefore it does.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
163. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF MEANNESS
(1) If God didn't exist, it would be mean of him to make me believe he did!
(2) God isn't mean.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
164. ARGUMENT FROM WE ALL GOT FAITH
(1) We all believe in something.
(2) Therefore we all have faith.
(3) My faith in God is no different from your faith that the sun will rise tomorrow morning.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
165. ARGUMENT FROM COOLNESS
(1) That's really cool.
(2) God must have done that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
166. ARGUMENT FROM WTC, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM TERRORISM (III)
(1) Terrorists destroyed the WTC, killing thousands.
(2) An intact Bible was found in the ruins.
(3) No, wait, it turns out it was a dictionary.
(4) Oh, well, God exists anyway.
167. ARGUMENT FROM COLLEGE FUNDING (usable by parents only)
(1) You believe in God.
(2) If I ever find out that you don't believe in God, you won't get any money for college!
(3) Therefore, God exists.
168. ARGUMENT FROM SNOWFLAKES
(1) Out of 3,300 pictures of snow-crystals catalogued no two are exactly alike. Each has 6 points crossing at a 60 degree angle. If one is like a fern it has 6 out-pointing leaves; if like a windmill, it has 6 sails; if like a starfish, 6 ribs; or if like a fir tree, 6 stems with plumes set in perfect symmetry. This makes 3 distinct triangles to each flake. The Hebrew word for snow equals 333 (Hebrew letters stand for numbers).
(2) Could it not be that God has set His symbol of the Triune God in each flake? The average snow storm produces about 1000 billion crystals.
(3) Only an intelligent being could design so many forms.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
169. ARGUMENT FROM CUSTODY (used by the parents of a friend of mine)
(1) We have legal custody of your son.
(2) If you don't act as though the Christian God existed, then we won't let you see him.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
170. ARGUMENT FROM FIDEISM, a.k.a. MARTIN GARDNER'S ARGUMENT
(1) Atheists are absolutely right. There is no logical reason to believe God exists.
(2) But He makes me feel good anyway.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
171. ARGUMENT FROM PEPPER'S PHILOSOPHY CLASS, a.k.a. THE ENERGY ARGUMENT
(1) Things that exist have energy.
(2) Energy is alive.
(3) All living things are made from energy.
(4) Therefore, God Exists.
172. ARGUMENT FROM A BAD TRIP
(1) I went to a party and took LSD.
(2) I saw demons attacking me.
(3) Then Jesus came and drove the demons away.
(4) So I joined the Assemblies of God.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
173. ARGUMENT FROM A GOOD TRIP
(1) I went to a party and took LSD.
(2) I saw God and Jesus, and they love me.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
174. ARGUMENT FROM STUPIDITY
(1) I am stupid.
(2) God made man in his own image.
(3) There are all horrible disasters going around the world.
(4) God is omnipotent in power.
(5) God is too stupid to do anything about these things.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
175. ARGUMENT FROM STAR TREK
(1) You will be assimilated.
(2) All your salvations belong to us.
(3) Resistance is futile.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
176. ARGUMENT FROM PRAYER
(1) When I pray, either it comes true or God has a better plan.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
177. ARGUMENT FROM DEMOCRACY
(1) God would never allow a non-Christian to become president.
(2) There has never been a non-Christian president.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
178. ARGUMENT FROM PAIN AVOIDANCE
(1) If I don't believe God exists, I'll go to Hell.
(2) Please don't hurt me.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
179. ARGUMENT FROM MOUNTAINS
(1) People used to think gods lived on Mt. Olympus.
(2) We've climbed Mt. Olympus and there were no gods there.
(3) Therefore, pagan gods are false.
(4) Therefore, the Christian God exists.
180. ARGUMENT FROM FUZZY ANIMALS, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (V)
(1) Bunnies are cute.
(2) Cuteness is not an evolutionary advantage.
(3) Therefore, cuteness must have been designed.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
181. ARGUMENT FROM POLITICS
(1) The vast majority of the people believe in God.
(2) I'll get elected if I pretend to believe in God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
182. ARGUMENT FROM PRESIDENTIAL IGNORANCE
(1) If I ask God to blesserize Texas, nobody'll mess with it.
(2) Nobody messes with Texas.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
183. ARGUMENT FROM COINCIDENCE
(1) We were driving home with our youth pastor when it started to rain really hard outside.
(2) We pulled over to the side of the road, joined hands and asked gawd to deliver us home safely.
(3) We arrived home safely.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
184. ARGUMENT FROM COMPUTERS
(1) I tried to delete a copy of the TEN COMMANDMENTS from my computer. It would not have mattered as I had another copy on file.
(2) Still the computer malfunctioned.
(3) The computer had more sense than Atheists who made it.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
185. ARGUMENT FROM INVISIBILITY
(1) God is invisible.
(2) I can't see God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
186. ARGUMENT FROM RAIN, a.k.a. PERCHANCE'S SISTER'S ARGUMENT (III)
(1) I wanted it to be a sunny day.
(2) I prayed it wouldn't rain.
(3) We had two thunderstorms.
(4) Obviously, God didn't want to answer my prayer.
(5) Of course not! What a selfish thing to pray for! How dare I try to compel God to my selfish desires!
(6) The rain was God's punishment for my selfish desires.
(7) Therefore, God exists.
187. METACROCK'S ARGUMENT FOR GOD (I)
(1) I Have a philosophy degree.
(2) Your knowledge in philosophy is paltry in comparison to mine.
(3) Therefore you are unable to comprehend my intense philosophical proofs of God's existence.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
188. METACROCK'S ARGUMENT FOR GOD (II)
(1) I created the term "arbitrary necessity".
(2) It is a golden principle and applies to whatever I say it does.
(3) I say an eternal universe is an arbitrary necessity.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
189. ARGUMENT FROM BEER (I)
(1) "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." — Ben Franklin
(2) Beer exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
190. ARGUMENT FROM BEER (II)
(1) Christian: Whatever you believe in is your god.
(2) Atheist: I believe I'll have another beer.
(3) Ha ha.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
191. ARGUMENT FROM MONKEYS
(1) If man came from monkeys, there shouldn't be any more monkeys.
(2) There are still monkeys.
(3) Therefore, God Exists.
192. ARGUMENT FROM C.S. LEWIS
(1) C.S. Lewis had a lot of good arguments in favor of Christianity ... at least that’s what all my Christian friends tell me...
(2) C.S. Lewis wrote some popular books too!
(3) So anything C.S. Lewis said must be right!
(4) Therefore, God Exists.
193. ARGUMENT FROM UNIVERSAL DESTRUCTION
(1) I woke up this morning and found that the universe still exists.
(2) Therefore, its destruction was averted by God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
194. ARGUMENT FROM DEAD FIREFIGHTERS
(1) All those dead firefighters were blessed by a Catholic priest before they gave their lives.
(2) For people they didn't even know!
(3) Yes, they were TOO mostly Catholics!
(4) I just know!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
195. ARGUMENT FROM TODD BEAMER
(1) Todd Beamer prayed "Our Father" with a switchboard operator after his flight was hijacked.
(2) Todd Beamer was a hero.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
196. ARGUMENT FROM FALWELL
(1) Jerry Falwell said some really stupid things after September 11th.
(2) Then he apologized!
(3) He was inspired by God to repent!
(4) No, it had nothing to do with the public outcry!
(5) Why? Because God told me so!
(6) Therefore, God exists.
197. ARGUMENT FROM SCIENTISTS
(1) Some famous scientists believed in God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
198. ARGUMENT FROM FLOWERS, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (VI)
(1) That flower is pretty.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
199. ARGUMENT FROM INSTRUMENTATION
(1) You are an Atheist.
(2) You did something kind.
(3) You are an instrument of God.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
200. ARGUMENT FROM QUANTUM PHYSICS
(1) Quantum physics uses an uncertainty principle.
(2) There is room for God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
201. ARGUMENT FROM THE 2nd LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS (I)
(1) The Second Law of Thermodynamics says that a closed system tends to disorder.
(2) The universe is closed and ordered.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
202. ARGUMENT FROM SONG
(1) The song "America the Beautiful" has the line "God shed his grace on thee."
(2) Therefore, God exists.
203. ARGUMENT FROM APOLOGETICS WEBPAGES
(1) I was surfing the Net and came across this really cool webpage of apologetics.
(2) Their arguments were stunning. I couldn't refute them.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
204. ARGUMENT FROM COMFORT
(1) All kinds of people have found comfort in religion.
(2) That means there must be something there to give comfort to them.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
205. ARGUMENT FROM BILL O'REILLY
(1) Atheism is challenging this country's Christian roots!
(2) We are Christians!
(3) We will make a big stink about this, and not let Atheists win!
(4) We will win because God is on our side!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
206. ARGUMENT FROM EXISTENTIAL LONELINESS
(1) This can't be all there is to existence.
(2) I mean it's so horrible, pointless, brutal and nasty.
(3) It's all so depressing.
(4) I'm lonely.
(5) There has to be something else out there.
(6) I mean it, there just has to be.
(7) THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING ELSE OUT THERE!
(8) ARRGGGG!!! THERE JUST HAS TO BE!!!!
(9) God! He can be out there for me.
(10) I'm not so lonely now!
(11) Yay!
(12) Therefore, God exists.
207. ARGUMENT FROM SINS I LIKE, a.k.a. PERCHANCE'S SISTER'S ARGUMENT (IV)
(1) I don't like abortion.
(2) But this is just my opinion.
(3) I want my opinion backed up with facts.
(4) But in the absence of facts, morals will do.
(5) Christians say abortion is a sin! Yeah! I have allies!
(6) But for a sin to exist and Christians to be right, God must exist.
(7) Therefore, God exists.
208. ARGUMENT FROM CHRISTIAN SOLIPSISM
(1) Nothing but Jesus is real.
(2) See #1.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
209. The ARGUMENT FROM THE THRONE ROOM
(1) Would you stand in the presence of a mighty king and demand that he prove he exists?
(2) No?
(3) That's what you're doing with God, you arrogant bastards.
(4) I don't CARE that you can't see him!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
210. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF IMAGINATION
(1) I couldn't imagine not believing in God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
211. ARGUMENT FROM WOW
(1) When I look into the sky and see all the pretty stars, all those galaxies...
(2) Wow.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
212. ARGUMENT FROM ARMCHAIR PSYCHOANALYSIS
(1) You say there's no God?
(2) Ah, someone calling themselves Christian must have really hurt you in the past.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
213. ARGUMENT FROM CHRISTIAN EXPERTS ARE IGNORED
(1) Dembski, Behe and Plantinga are ignored by mainstream intellectuals.
(2) Only a fear of the truth could explain this.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
214. ARGUMENT FROM CHRISTIAN EXPERTS ARE NOT IGNORED
(1) Mainstream intellectuals are paying some attention to Dembski, Behe and Plantinga.
(2) Only a growing recognition of the truth could explain this.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
215. ARGUMENT FROM COUNTERFACTUAL EVIDENCE
(1) You claim the evidence for Jesus' divinity is non-existent.
(2) But if there were lots of evidence, you would still not be convinced.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
216. ARGUMENT FROM UNSEEN MIRACLES
(1) Atheists wouldn't believe in God even if He showed up and performed a miracle for them.
(2) See! There was a miracle right over there! Didn't you see it?
(3) No?
(4) You must be an Atheist. Therefore, you cannot see miracles.
(5) But miracles happen. You just can't see them.
(6) Likewise, God exists. You just can't see Him, because you are so determined not to.
(7) Therefore, God exists.
217. ARGUMENT FROM WIND
(1) You believe in wind.
(2) But you can't see it.
(3) God's the same way.
(4) It IS TOO analogous!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
218. ARGUMENT FROM WARREN ROBINETT
(1) There's a secret message in the video game "Adventure."
(2) It reveals that the game was Created By Warren Robinett.
(3) It's the same way with the world.
(4) Look for the secret messages, and you will find the World's Creator.
(5) Therefore, God Exists.
219. ARGUMENT FROM OFFENSIVENESS, a.k.a. GOODY2SHOES' ARGUMENT
(1) You keep making statements that I think are generalizations, hypocritical, and bigoted.
(2) I will only agree to stay if you stop that.
(3) [Non-believer tries to be non-offensive.]
(4) You're still offending me because of [insert random statement here].
(5) [Non-believer rereads her posts before posting, posting when she thinks she is not being offensive.]
(6) I'm offended!
(7) [Non-believer tears her hair out trying to figure out how to be non-offensive.]
(8) This conversation is just the two of us. I think we should stop this conversation.
(9) [Non-believer figures 'Fuck it' and posts what she really thinks.]
(10) WOW! WHAT A BIGOT! I'm leaving!
(11) I have a spiritual victory.
(12) Therefore, God exists.
220. ARGUMENT FROM MULTIPLICITY (II), a.k.a. TERCEL'S ARGUMENT (II)
(1) I have a large number of arguments for God.
(2) There is a small chance that at least one of them is true.
(3) Using voodoo probability calculations, this means that there is a much greater chance that all of them are true taken together!
(4) And this ISN'T just the mathematical version of the Ontological Proof; I'm a real mathematician and you obviously can't understand this proof because you don't know as much about math as I do.
(5) Oh, and don't confuse things by mentioning how many Atheistic arguments there are, and the probability of each of them being correct...
(6) Or the fact that I basically pulled the probability of each of my arguments being correct out of my ass...
(7) And admit that I know more about math than you, and you'll see that...
(8) Therefore, God exists.
221. ARGUMENT FROM TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCES
(1) One time, I was in deep emotional pain.
(2) I prayed to God, and felt His presence.
(3) You aren't going to deny my emotional pain, are you?
(4) Therefore, God exists.
222. ARGUMENT FROM ABUSING THE BODY
(1) One time, I fasted for three days straight, prayed on my knees for hours, and didn't sleep, either.
(2) At the end of that time, God answered me.
(3) You see, you just have to mortify the flesh and accept the things of the spirit in order to meet God.
(4) No, there is no possibility that it was a hallucination!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
223. ARGUMENT FROM ECSTASY (used by a number of saints)
(1) I woke up last night with a feeling of indescribable pleasure and joy.
(2) It couldn't have been sexual; I'm holy and never have thoughts like those.
(3) So the ecstasy must have come from God.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
224. ARGUMENT FROM FEELING LOVE ALL AROUND, a.k.a. PERCHANCE'S SISTER'S ARGUMENT (V)
(1) I can just feel love all around me. I know the world is a good place, that people are essentially good, and that that comes from God.
(2) I don't know how I know. It's just there. You've never felt it?
(3) I don't know how I know. Stop pestering me!
(4) [Sheds tears until nasty non-believer goes away.]
(5) Therefore, God exists.
225. ARGUMENT FROM MUSIC (could also be used for art)
(1) You like classical music.
(2) Classical composers wrote for God.
(3) [Non-believer points out that they had to compose for the Church or they would have been executed.]
(4) But they wrote for God and you like the music.
(5) Therefore, God Exists.
226. ARGUMENT FROM SADISM (I)
(1) I enjoy beating children.
(2) I find some justification for it in the Bible.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
227. ARGUMENT FROM SADISM (II), a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM MISOGYNY
(1) I enjoy treating women like dirt. It makes me feel powerful.
(2) I find some justification for it in the Bible.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
228. ARGUMENT FROM THE BIBLE (II)
(1) The Bible says the Bible is true.
(2) Therefore the Bible is true.
(3) The Bible says God exists.
(4) Therefore, God exist.
229. WILLIAM JAMES' ARGUMENT
(1) We should give people the benefit of the doubt.
(2) When someone says God exists, we should believe them.
(3) A lot of people say God exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
230. PASCAL'S ARGUMENT, a.k.a. PASCAL'S WAGER
(1) If God exists, it would be really cool. (And I would win big-time.)
(2) If God didn't exist, it would really suck. (But I wouldn't lose much.)
(3) Therefore, God exists. (Or, at least I should believe in God because it's the best bet.)
231. THE BIBLICAL PRESERVATION ARGUMENT
(1) The Bible hasn't changed much since it was written.
(2) Therefore everything in it must be true.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
232. ARGUMENT FROM BIBLICAL PROPHECY (II)
(1) Jesus clearly fulfilled all the prophecies of the Jews.
(2) I don't care if many stories were created to fulfill prophecy.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
233. THE STEWARDSHIP ARGUMENT
(1) God gave us the earth to take care of.
(2) We take care of it.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
234. ARGUMENT FROM THE 2nd LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS (II)
(1) All systems become chaotic.
(2) The Universe, too, will become chaotic.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
235. ARGUMENT FROM UNICORNS
(1) Unicorns don't exist, especially invisible pink ones.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
236. ARGUMENT FROM THE MEANING OF LIFE (I)
(1) What's the meaning of life?
(2) [Atheist gives her answer.]
(3) That's not what I believe.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
237. ARGUMENT FROM LOGIC
(1) There are some things in logic that you can't logically demonstrate.
(2) Therefore you have to take them on faith.
(3) Your faith in logic is the same as my faith in God.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
238. VELIKOVSKY'S ARGUMENT
(1) If you twist the details enough, you can make a case for Venus or a comet causing the Biblical catastrophes.
(2) Therefore the Bible is true.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
239. ARGUMENT FROM CAN'T-BE-A-RACIST
(1) Martin Luther King, Jr. believed in God.
(2) I don't think you want to say Dr. King was a fool, do you?
(3) That's what I thought.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
240. ARGUMENT FROM JESUS’ TORTURE
(1) No one ever, ever suffered as much as Jesus did on the cross.
(2) No, not the victims of the Inquisition.
(3) No, not the women burned at the stake or hanged as witches.
(4) No, not all the people who died thinking they were going to Hell!!!
(5) Who but God would suffer like that for us ungrateful, unworthy humans?
(6) Therefore, God exists.
241. ARGUMENT FROM SEVERABILITY, a.k.a. THE TRUE SCOTSMAN ARGUMENT
(1) Lots of ridiculous statements are made by people who only claim is to be Real Christians.
(2) They just give Real Christians a bad name.
(3) Real Christians don't believe is literally true.
(4) But that doesn't mean the Bible isn't still mostly true.
(5) And the Bible is the Word of God.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
242. ARGUMENT FROM BECAUSE
(1) Because.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
243. ELABORATED ARGUMENT FROM BECAUSE
(1) Because.
(2) Because why?
(3) Because!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
244. ARGUMENT FROM "LET'S JUST BELIEVE," a.k.a. TAFFY LEWIS'S ARGUMENT (I)
(1) All belief systems should be treated the same as the scientific one.
(2) [non-believer: Why?]
(3) Because they have their own grounds.
(4) Anyway, that's my experience of how the world works.
(5) [non-believer: It's not mine. And why should you treat claims of unicorns less seriously than claims of gods?]
(6) I don't believe there are unicorns.
(7) But I believe there are gods.
(8) Therefore, God exists.
245. ARGUMENT FROM UNIQUE EXISTENCE
(1) God exists but not in a way that anything else that exists exists.
(2) Since there are no other things that exist as God exists, we are free to make up things about God's state of existence that ensure his continued non-observability
(3) Therefore, God exists.
246. ARGUMENT FROM POSITIVE RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE, a.k.a. TAFFY LEWIS'S ARGUMENT (II)
(1) More people have had positive religious experiences in the context of Western theism.
(2) Therefore, God is kind, just, and all-loving.
(3) [non-believer: What about the people who have had negative experiences? Or experiences of God's non-existence?]
(4) They don't count.
(5) Therefore, God is just the way I describe him to be.
(5a) Oh, yeah. And God exists.
247. ARGUMENT FROM RIGHTS
(1) The Declaration of Independence founded the U.S.
(2) Therefore, the Declaration of Independence is true.
(3) The Declaration of Independence says that our rights are "endowed by our Creator."
(4) George W. agrees with this.
(5) You have rights, don't you???
(6) Well where the f*** do you think they came from???
(7) Therefore, God exists.
248. ARGUMENT FROM FUTURE EVIDENCE
(1) Look, I realize that it doesn't seem to make sense that there would logically be a God.
(2) However, I know He's real, and that in the future I think that maybe something will happen probably that will show you all.
(3) Therefore, God Exists.
249. ARGUMENT FROM POSTULATE
(1) To fully understand the following demonstration, you must first assume that God exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
250. ARGUMENT FROM POOR TYPING SKILLS
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(2) [Atheist doesn't bother to read it.]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
251. ARGUMENT FROM UNTRANSLATED OLD FRENCH
(1) Mais pourceque j'avois déjà connu en moi très clairement que la nature intelligente est distincte de la corporelle; considérant que toute composition témoigne de la dépendance, et que la dépendance est manifestement un défaut, je jugeois de là que ce ne pouvoit être une perfection en Dieu d'être composé de ces deux natures, et que par conséquent il ne l'étoit pas; mais que s'il y avoit quelques corps dans le monde, ou bien quelques intelligences ou autres natures qui ne fussent point toutes parfaites, leur être devoit dépendre de sa puissance, en telle sorte quelles ne pouvoient subsister sans lui un seul moment. — René Descartes,Discours de la Méthode
(2) How could you possibly refute that?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
252. ARGUMENT FROM CLEVER USE OF VOCABULARY
(1) Many Atheists will not be convinced by an argument with "Therefore, God exists" as its conclusion.
(2) Consequently, God exists.
253. ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INCREDULITY (III)
(1) I don't understand evolution; I mean how could there be nothing then something?
(2) (Well informed Atheist gives articulate explanation of evolution and gently explains that the beginning of the universe has nothing to do with evolution.)
(3) Well it seems way too complicated and unlikely to me. Plus I don't want to live my life thinking I evolved from a monkey.
(4) Therefore, God exists and Jesus died for our sins.
(5) (Atheist argues that theist's ignorance of evolution does not logically lead to the conclusion that there is a god, let alone the Christian god.)
(6) Says you! God bless.
(7) Therefore, God exists.
254. ARGUMENT FROM CHURCH
(1) Lots of people go to church.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
255. ARGUMENT FROM PHOTO-OP, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE (II)
(1) A couple of godless commie federal judges ruled the 1954 inclusion of "under God" in the Pledge unconstitutional.
(2) Almost immediately thereafter, the whole U.S. Senate recited the Pledge, including "under God," on the Capitol steps.
(3) The Senators' conduct was not — I repeat, NOT — mere political posturing and/or vote whoring.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
256. ARGUMENT FROM DEFENESTRATION
(1) If God exists, then He will protect me if I jump out this third story window.
(2) However, you will not be so fortunate, unsaved heathen!
(3) *shove*
(4) See! God didn't protect you, just like I predicted! Any counterarguments, heathen?
(5) No? Therefore, God exists.
257. ARGUMENT FROM MUSHROOMS
(1) This pizza tastes funny.
(2) That purple llama on the ceiling is juggling chainsaws.
(3) Purple llamas can't juggle chainsaws.
(4) It must be a miracle!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
258. ARGUMENT FROM MYTHOLOGY
(1) The old religions were wrong.
(2) The old religions didn't believe in the same god as me.
(3) Therefore, I must be right.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
259. ARGUMENT FROM ACCUSATION
(1) The Bible says that everyone knows God exists.
(2) Therefore, YOU know that God exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
260. ARGUMENT FROM NOT-BELIEVING
(1) The New Testament says people like you would question us.
(2) You question us.
(3) Therefore the Bible is true.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
261. ARGUMENT FROM BANANAS (RAY COMFORT'S ARGUMENT)
(1) Bananas have many characteristics that make them attractive as primate food.
(2) They're so good that they must have been designed, just like Coke cans.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
262. ARGUMENT FROM METEORS (PAT ROBERTSON'S ARGUMENT)
(1) God hates gay people.
(2) God is merciful.
(3) Disney World held a Gay Day parade.
(4) God could punish Disney World by sending hurricanes, earthquakes, and possibly a meteor to Florida.
(5) God didn't, thus proving both postulates 1 and 2.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
263. ARGUMENT FROM COAL MINERS (I)
(1) A bunch of miners got trapped.
(2) A bunch of people worked around the clock for a week to rescue them.
(3) They were all found alive.
(4) It must have been a miracle!
(5) Only God could have done that.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
264. ARGUMENT FROM COAL MINERS (II), a.k.a. YOU ONLY HEAR FROM THE SURVIVORS (I)
(1) A bunch of miners got trapped.
(2) A bunch of people worked hard to rescue them.
(3) One was found alive.
(4) He thanked God for his survival.
(5) Only God could have done that.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
265. ARGUMENT FROM AIRPLANE CRASH, a.k.a. YOU ONLY HEAR FROM THE SURVIVORS (II)
(1) An airplane I was on crashed, killing most passengers.
(2) I survived!
(3) It was a MIRACLE!
(4) Only God could have done that.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
266. ARGUMENT FROM YOUTH GROUP MINISTER
(1) God is awesome!
(2) Like, totally, dude!
(3) Therefore, God, like, exists and stuff.
267. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL INABILITY
(1) The Bible says Jesus turned water into wine.
(2) Can you turn water into wine?
(3) No? Well there ya go.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
268. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL ABILITY
(1) I prayed to God, and then lifted a car off my trapped puppy.
(2) I couldn't have done that without God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
269. ARGUMENT FROM DIVINE OPPOSITION
(1) Satan is bad.
(2) You don't want to be on Satan's side, do you?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
270. ARGUMENT FROM DIVINE OPPOSITION AS USED BY A YOUTH GROUP MINISTER
(1) Satan really sucks, dude.
(2) You don't wanna, like, be like Satan, right dude?
(3) Therefore God, like, exists and stuff. Totally.
271. ARGUMENT FROM BUFFALO, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (VII)
(1) The Indians used every part of the buffalo.
(2) A creature we can use every part of couldn't have just randomly evolved!
(3) It had to be created specifically for us!
(4) Therefore, God exists (and spent his early years churning out buffalo).
272. ARGUMENT FROM DENTAL OPPORTUNITY
(1) Bite me.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
273. ARGUMENT FROM DENTAL OPPORTUNITY, ACCEPTED
(1) Bite me.
(2) OW! YOU BIT ME!
(3) I'm being persecuted!!
(4) Therefore, God exists!
274. ARGUMENT FROM NEW AGEYNESS
(1) If enough people just believe, God will exist.
(2) Lots of people have been believing for a very long time.
(3) Therefore, surely by NOW, God exists.
275. ARGUMENT FROM ROUNDNESS, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (VIII)
(1) Isn't it amazing how perfectly round the planets are?
(2) Someone sure must have been in control of that "Big Bang" in order for them to shape up like that!
(3) Just place a stick of dynamite under a huge rock. You'll see that the explosion does not produce perfectly round smaller rocks.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
(optional)
(3a) Atheist: The planets are round because of gravity.
(3b) But who made gravity?!?!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
276. ARGUMENT FROM FAITH IN THE OBVIOUS
(1) You have faith that the sun will rise tomorrow, don't you?
(2) See! Atheists have faith too!
(3) Just like I have faith in Jesus.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
277. ARGUMENT FROM IMPLIED BEAUTY, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (IX)
(1) If you evolved, you'd be pretty ugly.
(2) Look how beautiful you are, and the world that is around you.
(3) Only God could have made you so beautiful.
(4) I don't care that beauty is totally subjective, you are beautiful in God's eyes!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
278. ARGUMENT FROM BRAINWASHING
(1) Atheists claim Christians have been brainwashed by churches.
(2) We can just as easily say that they have been brainwashed by secular colleges and universities in their futile thinking and secular reasoning.
(3) Your brainwashing keeps you from the Truth.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
279. ARGUMENT FROM COMMUNISM
(1) All communists are Atheists.
(2) All communists are bad; haven't you watched the 6 o'clock news?
(3) Therefore they are wrong.
(4) Since the moral majority is theist and non-communist they are good.
(5) Therefore they are right.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
280. ARGUMENT FROM GOOD AND BAD BEHAVIOR
(1) Sometimes I do good things and sometimes I do bad things.
(2) When I do something good this PROVES that God, my Guardian Angel etc. are helping me to be good.
(3) Praise the Lord! Praise the Lord! Oh God help me to be strong and steadfast against temptation 'til I die so that You God will not (in Your infinite mercy) send me to Hell.
(4) When I do something bad this PROVES that the Devil has tempted me to do EVIL.
(5) Whatever I do it proves that either God or the Devil is real.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
281. ARGUMENT FROM BEER (III)
(1) Real men like beer.
(2) God allowed real men to make beer.
(3) Therefore, God is real, and likes beer.
282. ARGUMENT FROM TAXATION
(1) Churches don't pay taxes.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
283. ARGUMENT FROM GOD'S PLAN (variation of the MYSTERIOUS WAYS argument)
(1) There is a plan in the world.
(2) The existence of this plan can be seen from the fact that things are the way they are.
(3) My belief is part of the plan, and so is your non-belief.
(4) [Atheist: Why?]
(5) The plan is too infinitely great for our minds to comprehend the "why."
(6) An infinitely great plan must have an infinitely great mind behind it.
(7) Therefore, God exists.
284. ARGUMENT FROM HAULING ASS
(1) [Theist creates message board account and logs in.]
(2) "GOD IS REEL AND ALL YOU HEATHEN ATHEIST INFEDILS WILL BERN IN HELL FORE-EVER MARK MY WERDS!!!!!!!!@#3FD"
(3) [Theist logs off and never returns.]
(4) Therefore, God exists.
285. ARGUMENT FROM BAPTIST BOARD
(1) God calls us to be a peculiar people.
(2) Stop laughing, foul non-believer.
(3) In order to preserve our own particular peculiarity —
(4) Stop laughing, I said.
(5) We must be a people apart.
(6) This means not listening to anyone who believes differently than we do, because this would taint our peculiarity.
(7) If you do not stop laughing —
(8) (Oh, I have to do the end of the argument?)
(9) Therefore, God exists.
(9a) And God especially exists because non-believers are laughing at us, which means we're persecuted, which means we're special.
(10) Therefore, God exists.
286. ARGUMENTUM AD TINKERTOYUM, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (X)
(1) Take some tinkertoys and make several "creations".
(2) Take the creations apart and dump the pieces in a plastic bag.
(3) Shake the pieces up and dump them on the floor. Repeat as many times as you wish.
(4) The tinkertoys will never reassemble themselves into the original creations.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
287. ARGUMENT FROM HOSPITAL, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM MIRACLES (II)
(1) A dear relative of mine was terminally ill and undergoing extensive surgery in the hospital.
(2) My whole family sat outside the O.R. and prayed through the entire eight hours of surgery.
(3) He lived.
(4) No, the highly trained physicians had nothing to do with it, unbeliever!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
288. ARGUMENT FROM WEIRD
(1) You look weird, Atheist.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
289. ARGUMENT FROM ALIENS
(1) I was once abducted by aliens.
(2) What we call aliens are really demons, the Bible says so.
(3) If demons exist, than so does God.
(4) You've seen the X-files, haven't you?
(5) Therefore, God exists.
290. ARGUMENT FROM REVELATION
(1) God told me that he exists.
(2) God wouldn't lie.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
291. ARGUMENT FROM FORCE
(1) [argument from Atheist]
(2) [Theist shoots Atheist.]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
292. ARGUMENT FROM NAZIISM (INVERSE-GODWIN)
(1) Hitler didn't establish a Christian theocracy.
(2) Therefore, Hitler was an Atheist.
(3) Hitler was the worst leader possible.
(4) Therefore, all Atheists are bad people.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
293. ARGUMENT FROM UNCONSCIOUS THEISM
(1) Atheists think the universe created life.
(2) Well, they should if they thought about it really, really hard.
(3) But only a God can create life.
(4) So Atheists should believe in God, if they weren't so dumb.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
294. ARGUMENT FROM COMMUNICATION FROM GOD
(1) I had this incredible experience that could only be explained by a communication from God.
(2) Atheist says, "Couldn't there be a natural explanation?"
(3) No, I'm telling you there is no way this could be explained naturally.
(4) Atheist suggests alternate explanations q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y and z.
(5) No, none of those can explain it.
(6) Because they can't!
(7) Atheist is not convinced.
(8) How dare you deny my very special experience!
(9) Atheist tries to explain that she's only questioning the theist's interpretation of that experience, and not the claim that something special was experienced.
(10) You just don't want to believe that what I experienced is from God, because you are a closed-minded, dogmatic materialist!
(11) And also, you are a big meanie and I'm not talking to you anymore!
(12) Therefore, God exists.
295. ARGUMENT FROM COLTRANE
(1) John Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" is dedicated to God.
(2) John Coltrane's "A Love Supreme" is full of passion.
(3) Atheists cannot explain Coltrane's passion in "A Love Supreme."
(4) Therefore, God exists.
296. ARGUMENT FROM GEORGE HARRISON
(1) George Harrison wrote "My Sweet Lord."
(2) It's one of the most beautiful pop songs ever, and one of the only pop songs devoted to God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
297. ARGUMENT FROM BEING A CATHOLIC
(1) The pope believes in God.
(2) The pope is infallible.
(3) I am Catholic and like the pope.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
298. ARGUMENT FROM GAME THEORY
(1) Theist: (after lengthy explanation) Hence, pursuant to game theory, belief in an afterlife is the most sensible option.
(2) Atheist: Wait a minute. That's just Pascal's Wager dressed in different verbiage.
(3) Theist: Nuh uh!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
299. "TRUE BECAUSE IT IS INCONSISTENT" ARGUMENT
(1) If the Bible were cooked up by some smooth-talking manipulative authors, it would have been perfect and seamless and without any apparent inconsistencies.
(2) But the Bible IS inconsistent, erroneous, and plain goofy at many places.
(3) So the Bible is NOT a product of some smooth-talking manipulative authors.
(4) Hence the Bible is the word of God.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
300. ARGUMENT FROM BUZZWORDS
(1) As game theory clearly shows, the irreducibly complex nature of the universe indicates probabilistic fine-tuning at the quantum level and renders God logically necessary.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
301. ARGUMENT FROM THINGS HURT (I)
(1) Things hurt.
(2) Atheists think that things aren't supposed to hurt.
(3) They really are whiney, aren't they?
(4) Christians are stronger than that.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
302. ARGUMENT FROM THINGS HURT (II)
(1) Some things hurt a lot.
(2) Atheists think that things aren't supposed to hurt.
(3) But since they can't derive "ought" from "is," their belief presupposes the existence of God.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
303. EXISTENTIAL ARGUMENT FROM EVIL / ARGUMENT FROM POWER / ARGUMENT FROM GUNS (I)
(1) I have a gun.
(2) [Atheist: "Ouch!!!"]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
304. ARGUMENT FROM RELIGIOUS DIVERSITY
(1) Atheists think that the differences in religions disproves God's existence.
(2) Eh, to-may-to, to-mah-to.
(3) Everyone knows that you must accept Jesus Christ in order to be saved.
(4) Well, everyone who matters, anyway.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
305. ARGUMENT FROM RELIGIOUS LANGUAGE
(1) God exists.
(2) Therefore, when I talk about God or related concepts, these words denote something.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
306. ARGUMENT FROM EVOLUTION (I)
(1) Most indigenous folks all over the world started believing in gods independently.
(2) Belief in God is thus natural.
(3) Atheist: Many indigenous folks started eating each other, also independently.
(4) The Christian god forbids eating our fellow humans.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
307. ARGUMENT FROM EVOLUTION (II)
(1) Look at this cat.
(2) Cats are stupid and cannot believe in God. Only humans can.
(3) Belief in God is something human.
(4) You are human, right?
(5) Therefore, God exits.
308. ARGUMENT FROM SCIENCE (I)
(1) Science is always true.
(2) Science says that there is a vanishingly small chance that all of this could have happened on its own.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
309. ARGUMENT FROM SCIENCE (II)
(1) Science is not always true.
(2) Therefore there is room for religious faith.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
310. ARGUMENT FROM THE PAIN PLAN, a.k.a. LUVLUV'S ARGUMENT
(1) Things hurt.
(2) Things hurting are part of God's plan.
(3) A lot of the good things in life only come through suffering.
(4) This is necessary to achieve God's plan.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
311. ARGUMENT FROM GUNS (II)
(1) I have a gun.
(2) In fact, we have a lot more guns than you do.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
312. ARGUMENT FROM MONTY PYTHON
(1) Graham Chapman appeared in a film that made fun of Jesus.
(2) Graham Chapman died of a horrible, incurable disease.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
(3a) And has no sense of humor.
313. ARGUMENT FROM WAR
(1) War is hell.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
314. ARGUMENT FROM ELVIS (adapted from a church sign)
(1) Some people call Elvis the King.
(2) But we know Jesus is King.
(3) Even non-believers can have a glimpse of wisdom.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
315. LINGUAL ARGUMENT
(1) There's existence in nonexistence so...
(2) God exists even if he doesn't.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
316. DIVINE POWERS ARGUMENT
(1) God’s existence must be the work of God.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
317. ARGUMENT FROM OPPRESSION (related to the various arguments from offensiveness)
(1) God exists.
(2) [Atheist asks any one of various questions, or even just starts to ask them.]
(3) Are you saying that God doesn't exist?
(4) You're oppressing me! You're depriving me of the right to believe in God if I want to!
(5) Oppression is bad.
(6) Therefore, you are bad.
(7) Therefore, you must be wrong.
(8) Therefore, God exists.
318. ARGUMENT FROM WHEAT
(1) A grain of wheat will always fall to the ground and the outer shell “dies”.
(2) But see, eventually the grain will grow into a fuller, more vital form.
(3) Hey, that's kinda like the Resurrection!
(4) Therefore, God Exists.
319. ARGUMENT FROM WARM AND FUZZY THINGS
(1) When I was an Atheist, I didn't have any warm & fuzzy things in my life.
(2) I really like warm & fuzzy things.
(3) If the Christian God exists, lots of warm & fuzzy things are true because all these really smart theists say so.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
(5) Old Testament? Never heard of it.
320. ARGUMENT FROM SCIENCE (II)
(1) Everything was fine until man created science.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
321. ARGUMENT FROM AMERICA, a.k.a. GEORGE W. BUSH'S ARGUMENT
(1) God bless America.
(2) You're either with us or against us, remember.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
322. ARGUMENT FROM MASSIVE OPIATES, a.k.a. KARL MARX'S ARGUMENT
(1) Got to keep the public distracted.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
323. ARGUMENT FROM KING JOSIAH
(1) Time to expand the kingdom.
(2) Therefore, (my) God exists.
324. ARGUMENT FROM ASHCROFT
(1) I say God exists.
(2) I could have you locked up, you know.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
325. ARGUMENT FROM IT'S MY BALL AND YOU CAN'T PLAY
(1) There is abundant logical and empirical evidence that God does not exist.
(2) There is no evidence that God does exist.
(3) But God plays by completely different rules.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
326. ARGUMENT FROM DISCOMFORT
(1) I am happy, believing in God.
(2) Then you come along and say all this nasty stuff to take my happiness away.
(3) *sniff*... *sniff*... why are you making me uncomfortable?
(4) Anyone who makes other people uncomfortable must be different. And bad. And ignorant.
(5) Daddy will hug me!
(6) Therefore, God exists.
327. ARGUMENT FROM ARTIFACT
(1) Archeologists found the remains of a boat from Jesus' time.
(2) So the Bible is true.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
328. ARGUMENT FROM LITTLE BABIES (I)
(1) Sometimes a bad person hurts little babies because he doesn't have a happy life.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
329. ARGUMENT FROM LITTLE BABIES (II)
(1) Sometimes little babies are different from one another; how could you explain that?!
(2) Like, one will be really happy, and another will be sad. Sometimes even twins.
(3) This proves the existence of the soul.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
330. ARGUMENT FROM A VIDEO I WATCHED WITH MY DAD
(1) Me and my dad watched this video where the Virgin Mary appeared on a building in Egypt. No, it was kinda blurry...lots of people saw it though and they were pointing at it.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
331. ARGUMENT FROM WHAT YEAR IT IS
(1) The years of our calendar are dated from the birth of Christ.
(2) Therefore, Atheists can't even live without making reference to Christ.
(3) Obviously, Atheists really can't live apart from God, even though they say they can.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
332. ARGUMENT FROM GOD-CENTRISM
(1) Everything revolves around God, even the earth and the sun.
(2) Therefore, even Atheists are revolving around God!
(3) Silly, aren't they, to deny the truth?
(4) Therefore, God exists.
333. ARGUMENT FROM UNKNOWN QUALITIES
(1) God has qualities we mere humans can't possibly know.
(2) This answers all Atheistic arguments.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
334. ARGUMENT FROM FORGIVING MISGUIDEDNESS
(1) Theist: X, Y, and Z all prove God's love for mankind. This love proves he exists.
(2) Atheist: But I can refute X, Y, Z and unsaid arguments A, B, and C...
(3) Theist: Don't worry, you're wrong and your questioning of God will send you to hell; but he loves you and I forgive you your arrogance.
(4) Atheist: But you haven't said anything rational.
(5) Theist: Jesus/God *loves* you. Duh. Therefore, God exists.
(6) Repeat (1) - (5) ad infinitum.
335. ARGUMENT FROM FEELING GOD'S PRESENCE
(1) Atheists just haven't truly felt God's presence yet.
(2) If they had ever felt God's presence, they would not be Atheists.
(3) Theists have truly felt God's presence.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
336. ARGUMENT FROM WHAT MAKES SENSE
(1) Doesn't it just make more sense that an all-knowing, all-powerful, all-good deity created the world out of nothingness, from magic, essentially, and then punished us for eating a piece of fruit, and then incarnated himself in human flesh and came down to shed his own blood so he could break his own rules, and then went through hell on a temporary basis and then went back into the sky and promised to come back and take everyone who believed in him to this heaven no one has ever seen?
(2) Well, doesn't it?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
337. ARGUMENT FROM WHAT MAKES SENSE, ADDENDUM
(1) Atheist: No it doesn't.
(2) Theist: See, you're confusing the issue again! Think Simple and Sensible!
(3) Therefore, God exists.
338. ARGUMENT FROM SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN (I)
(1) Scientific American published an article that shows creationism is nonsense.
(2) The first editor of Scientific American was a Christian.
(3) Therefore, whoever wrote that article is a traitor and a liar.
(4) Besides, Scientific American didn't hire a creationist in the 70s, so they're obviously trying to persecute Christians.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
339. ARGUMENT FROM SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN (II)
(1) Answers in Genesis copied the full text of an article from Scientific American.
(2) Scientific American sent one email to Answers in Genesis saying that they don't necessarily want their articles distributed for free in the internet by just anyone.
(3) See? Scientific American persecutes Christians!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
340. ARGUMENT FROM PEPPERED MOTHS
(1) Science textbooks still use the "peppered moths" to prove evolution.
(2) Atheist says that he has never seen a textbook which claims anything of the sort, in fact the only place he hears about peppered moths is from creationist websites.
(3) Obviously the Atheist has no clue what he's talking about then.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
341. ARGUMENT FROM GOD IS LIKE A RADIO SIGNAL, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM AUDITORY HALLUCINATIONS
(1) There are many radio signals floating around your head all the time.
(2) God is on one of them.
(3) You just have to listen to the right signal.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
342. ARGUMENT FROM AGNOSTICISM IN INDIA
(1) [Non-believer asks if the theist would still call his religious experiences Christian if he had been raised in another country.]
(2) Would you call your agnostic experiences agnostic if you had been raised in India?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
343. ARGUMENT FROM BESTSELLERDOM
(1) The Bible is the best-selling work in history.
(2) Now, just because it's popular doesn't mean it's the Word of God.
(3) But there's not much evidence to suggest it's not.
(4) [sound of non-believer spitting milk out her nose]
(5) Therefore, God exists.
344. MODIFIED TRILEMMA ARGUMENT
(1) Jesus was either lord, liar, or lunatic.
(2) Can you PROVE He was a liar or lunatic?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
345. ARGUMENT FROM OTHERWISE THERE WOULD BE ANARCHY
(1) There has to be an objective truth to the universe, and humans have to be able to access it.
(2) Otherwise, there would be anarchy everywhere.
(3) No courts or governments or anything.
(4) [Non-believer falls out of her chair from laughing so hard.]
(5) Therefore, God exists.
346. ARGUMENT FROM DIVINE RIGHT
(1) God saves the queen.
(2) The queen hasn't died.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
347. ARGUMENT FROM SQUARE CIRCLES
(1) There is no such thing as a square circle.
(2) God is not a square circle.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
348. ARGUMENT FROM DICTATORSHIP
(1) Dictators do not believe in God.
(2) Dictators are wrong.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
349. ARGUMENT FROM TERROR (MARTIN LUTHER'S ARGUMENT)
(1) The lightning storm filled me with the terror of God's wrath.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
350. ARGUMENT FROM MEANING (II)
(1) Nothing has meaning without God.
(2) I mean...
(3) Therefore, God exists.
351. ARGUMENT FROM MEANING (III)
(1) Without God, life has no ultimate meaning and purpose.
(2) My life has to have meaning and purpose.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
352. ARGUMENT FROM RIGHT AND WRONG (I)
(1) Without God, there is no no ultimate right and wrong.
(2) I want there to be ultimate right and wrong, so I don't have to decide.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
353. ARGUMENT FROM DOSTOEVSKY, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM RIGHT AND WRONG (II) (see Dostoevsky Didn't Say It)
(1) If God does not exist, everything is permitted.
(2) I can't accept that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
354. ARGUMENT FROM DESTINY
(1) Without God, there is no no ultimate destiny and my destiny is dust.
(2) I can't accept that because I want more.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
355. ARGUMENT FROM SEMANTIC UNCERTAINTY
(1) Atheists can't quite agree on the exact definition of Atheism.
(2) Therefore all Atheists are wrong.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
356. ARGUMENT FROM TROUBLESOMENESS
(1) God really, really bothers me.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
357. WAYSON'S ARGUMENT
(1) Scientists generally accept the theory of evolution.
(2) I don't.
(3) Therefore, they are lying or fabricating their data.
(4) Therefore, God Exists.
358. ARGUMENT FROM NEGATIVE THEOLOGY, or THAT'S ONE REALLY BIG HOLE YOU'VE GOT THERE IN YOUR GROUND OF BEING
(1) We live in a world of pain and suffering.
(2) It seems that God is completely and utterly absent from our world.
(3) This complete and utter absence constitutes an infinite void.
(4) Only an infinite being could create the infinite void that we experience.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
359. ARGUMENT FROM EXCESSIVE STUPIDITY
(1) Some people are smart enough to be able to live without belief in God.
(2) I am not intelligent enough to live without belief in God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
360. ARGUMENT FROM ALGEBRA, a.k.a. EULER'S ARGUMENT TO DIDEROT
(1) You don't understand algebra, right?
(2) (a+b^n)/n = x
(3) Therefore, God exists. (Donc Dieu existe.)
361. ARGUMENT FROM RATIONALITY, a.k.a. PRESUPPOSITIONALIST or TRANSCENDENTAL (II)
(1) God is rational so, if God existed, the universe would be rational.
(2) But, if God didn't exist, the universe probably wouldn't be rational.
(3) So, if Atheists were right, rationality wouldn't exist and they couldn't prove God's nonexistence with it.
(4) No, I'm not going to explain why God should be rational.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
362. ARGUMENT FROM NAZI DECEPTION
(1) Hitler and his Nazis were Atheists.
(2) Yes, they fooled a lot of people into thinking they were Christians. That was propaganda. They were Atheists.
(3) This proves that Atheists are the masters of deception.
(4) Revelation says that the antichrist will deceive people.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
363. ARGUMENT FROM NAZI EVIL
(1) Hitler and his Nazis were Atheists.
(2) I don't care what the historical evidence says about their being Christians. Christians cannot be evil, and only Atheists would be capable of the Holocaust.
(3) So Nazis, like all truly evil people, are Atheists.
(4) Therefore, all Atheists are truly evil. They must be servants of Satan.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
364. ARGUMENT FROM DARWINIAN DIVINITY
(1) Atheists are evolutionists who worship Darwin.
(2) See, everyone needs to worship a god, even Atheists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
365. ARGUMENT FROM BAD NEIGHBORS
(1) My neighbor is always snooping through my garbage.
(2) I prayed for something bad to happen to my neighbor.
(3) Then my neighbor stuck his hand into a bear trap in my garbage.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
366. ARGUMENT FROM ANAL FRUSTRATION
(1) God my ASS!!
(2) My ass exists.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
367. ARGUMENT FROM YOU ARE ALWAYS LOVED
(1) You are always loved.
(2) God invented love.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
368. ARGUMENT FROM GOD WILL PROVIDE
(1) I don't know what I'm going to do with my life.
(2) But something always happens to sustain me. My parents support me, I find a job, etc. God provides!
(3) No, it's NOT the actions of the humans themselves! How could you think that?"
(4) Therefore, God exists.
369. ARGUMENT FROM NOT CONTRADICTING SUPERNATURALISM
(1) Science can give evidence for the existence of God.
(2) At the points where it doesn't, scientists should just shut up.
(3) Therefore, no evidence against God will ever be developed.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
370. ARGUMENT FROM DON'T BE IMPRISONED BY YOUR OWN LOGIC
(1) You could see the beauty of God if you would just open your eyes.
(2) God won't show himself to a person who has his eyes closed, you know.
(3) Logic can keep you from God, but only if you let it.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
371. ARGUMENT FROM LEFT TURN OUT OF McDONALDS
(1) A lady in an SUV with cell phone to her head pulls out of McD's with no concept of oncoming traffic.
(2) A frustrated motorist yells "Jesus Christ!"
(3) Therefore, God exists.
372. ARGUMENT FROM EAR SHAPE
(1) A drunken twentyish guy pontificates about ear shape and evolutionary processes.
(2) His girlfriend rebuts his assertion and proclaims intelligent design.
(3) She's cute, so he's not going to argue with her.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
373. ARGUMENT FROM M. NIGHT SHYAMALAN
(1) Mel Gibson plays a reverend whose wife is horribly killed, and he loses his faith.
(2) The Earth is suddenly attacked, his family is terrorized, he loses two pets, and many people across the globe presumably die.
(3) An alien grabs and terrorizes his son, injecting him with a poison. But with the help of said son's asthma, and the last words of his dead wife, he gets lucky and the kid doesn't quite die.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
4a) And don't you dare stop believing in him — otherwise, he might try to restore your faith by scaring the hell out of you.
374. ARGUMENT FROM INCOHERENCY
(1) You have to have faith!
(2) [Atheist: How do you define faith?]
(3) You know . . . Faith!
(4) [Atheist: No, I don't know. Please enlighten me.]
(5) You do so have faith! You're just trying to confuse me!
(6) Therefore, God exists.
375. ARGUMENT FROM YOU'RE TOO NICE
(1) You're too nice to be an Atheist.
(2) Therefore you can't be an Atheist. You must believe in God.
(3) [Atheist: Actually, no . . .]
(4) I'm not listening! LA LA LA LA LA!
(5) Therefore, God exists. To infinity.
376. ARGUMENT FROM DAN QUAYLE
(2) Gode Exists.
377. ARGUMENT FROM BILL CLINTON
(1) The existence of God depends on your definition of the word "of."
(2) Therefore, God exists.
378. ARGUMENT FROM JOHNNY COCHRAN
(1) If God exist, you must acquist!
(2) Therefore, God exist.
379. ARGUMENT FROM GEORGE W. BUSH
(1) That god won't hunt.
(2) Y'all.
(3) Ergo, um, axle of evil, ahh, claridify, umm, supportification, ah, pretzel.
(3) Y'all.
(4) What he said.
(5) Therefore, God existifies.
(2) Launch.
380. GODEL'S ARGUMENT
(1) Any proof of God's existence will always be incomplete.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
381. MINIMALISTIC ARGUMENT
(1) God
382. ARGUMENT FROM PLUMBER
(1) Therefore, God exists.
(2) That'll be five hundred dollars.
383. ARGUMENT FROM THE SOUP NAZI
(1) If God exists, he will stand in line like everybody else.
(2) That's it! No soup for you!
(3) Therefore, God exists.
384. ARGUMENT FROM GOD'S MOTHER
(1) You never call.
(2) Mr. Bigshot, too important to call his own mother.
(3) I might as well not exist. *sniff*
(4) And if I don't exist . . .
(5) [God quickly calls his mother]
(6) Therefore, God exists.
6a) Now let me materialize a nice hot cup of chicken soup . . .
385. ARGUMENT FROM CLASSIFIED ADS
(1) Suprmdl sks lv-in bdygrd. 1 bdrm apt.
(2) Thr4 Gd xsts.
386. ARGUMENT FROM DAUGHTER
(1) Can I have twenty bucks?
(2) I HATE you!
(3) Can you take me to the mall?
(4) There IS a God!
387. ARGUMENT FROM SON
(1) God made me do it.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
388. ARGUMENT FROM SPOUSE
(1) If you are still on that damned computer, God help you!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
389. ARGUMENT FROM LONG SILENCE
(1) God exists.
(2) [Atheist explains why he doesn't.]
(3) [long silence]
(4) [Atheist forgets about the argument and goes home.]
(5) Therefore, God exists.
390. ARGUMENT FROM FOOD CHAIN
(1) Humans are right at the top of the food chain.
(2) God made it this way.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
391. ARGUMENT FROM UNDERSTANDING
(1) You're not meant to understand.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
392. ARGUMENT FROM ALIENS
(1) Everyone knows that aliens don't exist.
(2) Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
(3) Oh, but God's different!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
393. ARGUMENT FROM SURVIVAL OF THE STUPID
(1) Norman and Jason have been posting for a couple of years now.
(2) And yet, there's no possible way that anyone THAT fucking stupid could survive more than an hour without supernatural assistance.
(3) It's a miracle!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
394. ARGUMENT FROM DESTRUCTIVE CAPABILITY
(1) The U.S. has the firepower to slaughter as many third world people as it wants.
(2) The U.S. uses that firepower regularly.
(3) Of course, America's firepower and willingness to use it are God's will.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
395. ARGUMENT FROM HUME (BRITT, NOT DAVID)
(1) If Osama bin Laden is still alive, then Dubya's war on terrorism has thus far failed.
(2) I can't wrap my mind around the idea that the war has been a failure, even in part.
(3) Therefore, we must interpret the fact that we haven't seen any new bin Laden tapes for a while as conclusive proof that bin Laden is dead.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
396. ARGUMENT FROM JESUS LOVES ME
(1) Jesus loves me because the Bible says so.
(2) If radiometric dating is valid, then Jesus might not love me after all because the Bible might not be literal truth.
(3) That's unacceptable.
(4) Therefore, radiometric dating is bogus, the Bible is literally true, Jesus loves me, and God exists.
397. ARGUMENT FROM THE LOTTERY
(1) Thousands of people in New York were murdered by terrorists on 9/11/01
(2) The winning New York lottery numbers on 9/11/02 were 911.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
398. ARGUMENT FROM AMBROSIA
(1) Mountain Dew is the nectar of the Gods.
(2) But God does not condone polytheism. And God knows best.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
399. ARGUMENT FROM HEISENBERG UNCERTAINTY
(1) The Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle (HUP) states that the location or the movement of a particle can be known, but not simultaneously.
(2) But God knows everything.
(3) Therefore, the HUP is false.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
400. ARGUMENT FROM PULP FICTION
(1) God CAME down from heaven, and stopped those motha-fuckin' bullets.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
401. ARGUMENT FROM VOLTAIRE
(1) Voltaire said, "If God didn't exist, it would be necessary to invent him."
(2) I concur.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
402. ARGUMENT FROM NIETZSCHE
(1) Nietzsche said, "The only excuse for God is that he doesn't exist."
(2) Not true. God's got PLENTY of excuses.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
403. ARGUMENT FROM FIGHT CLUB
(1) We are God's unwanted children.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
404. ARGUMENT FROM BASELESS CLAIM
(1) If you can show _______, then that would be evidence against God's existence.
(2) If you can't fill in that blank with some criteria, then the statement that there is a God seems to be without content, since no matter what the evidence was, you would still believe in a God.
(3) That's right.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
405. ARGUMENT FROM COMPLEXITY
(1) That which is complex has a creator.
(2) The universe is complex.
(3) Only God is complex enough to create the universe.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
406. ARGUMENT FROM SOME JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AT PERCHANCE'S DOOR (ULTRA-CONDENSED VERSION)
(1) Russia was Atheistic.
(2) But Russia collapsed.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
407. ARGUMENT FROM 2+2=4
(1) 2+2=4
(2) Think about how improbable that is.
(3) If the universe were left to random chance, 2+24 would probably not equal 4.
(4) Instead, it might be equal to -43, or 7,894,321,695,844, or something else.
(5) Only God could make 2+2=4.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
408. ARGUMENT FROM FERMAT
(1) My proof is so big it doesn't fit into the margins.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
409. ARGUMENT FROM INTUITION
(1) Democritus, and the writers of creation myths, and correct intuitions that there are atoms, and the world had not existed forever, respectively.
(2) Therefore, intuition in general is reliable.
(3) My intuition tells me that God exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
410. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF AN ARGUMENT (I)
(1) Well . . .
(2) Um . . .
(3) You see . . .
(4) Um . . .
(5) Therefore, God exists.
411. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF AN ARGUMENT (II)
(1) I don't have an argument for God.
(2) My lack of an argument makes me morally superior to you Atheists.
(3) This indicates a baseline standard of morality that must have been derived from God.
(4) MY GOD!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! *coughcough* Ouchies . . .
(5) [see next argument for further details]
(6) Therefore, God exists.
412. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF AN ARGUMENT (III)
(1) No, I WASN'T arguing!
(2) WAS NOT!
(3) What do you mean, I'm arguing now?
(4) WHAT!?!?!?
(5) [see previous argument for further details]
(6) Therefore, God exists.
413. ARGUMENT FROM LENGTH
(1) Here is a 200 page document, all in one giant paragraph, that proves God's existence.
(2) You didn't refute the third argument on page 167.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
414. TERCEL'S ARGUMENT FROM MYTH GESTATION TIME
(1) The gospels were written X amount of time after the events they describe.
(2) It takes longer than X for mythological content to be added to writings about people.
(3) [Atheist points out examples of myths popping up about events after periods much shorter than X, even "living legends" who had myths circulate them during their own lifetime.]
(4) Oh, those are just exceptions to the rule!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
415. ARGUMENT FROM McCARTHY
(1) All Atheists are commies.
(2) You're not a commie, are you?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
416. ETERNAL'S ARGUMENT FROM GENITALIA
(1) I have a penis.
(2) I can pee and ejaculate with it.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
417. ARGUMENT FROM EXPERIENCE
(1) You're too young.
(2) You haven't yet experienced life's absurdity.
(3) You'll grow up.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
418. ARGUMENT FROM UNANSWERED QUESTIONS
(1) Life is full of important questions.
(2) I need God to answer them.
(3) No, I'm NOT jumping on the first bogus answer people have been feeding me with!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
419. ARGUMENT FROM CHOCOLATE ICE CREAM
(1) I like chocolate ice cream.
(2) I opened my freezer, and behold, there was chocolate ice cream in it.
(3) God is so nice with all his little attentions!
(4) Therefore, God exist.
420. ARGUMENT FROM MISDEFINITION OF A RELIGION
(1) You don't want to be an evolutionist, do you?
(2) [Atheist explains that evolution is a scientific theory, not a religion]
(3) But you believe in it.
(4) That means you support Social Darwinism.
(5) And that's just yucky.
(6) I don't want to be yucky, so I can't support evolution.
(7) But I need some explanation for the origin of life.
(8) [Atheist: Evolution has nothing to do with—]
(9) Therefore, God exists.
421. ARGUMENT FROM ACCEPTANCE SPEECHES
(1) First of all, I'd like to thank my lord and savior, Jesus Christ.
(2) [shout out to all my homies in the balcony]
(3) I couldn't have done this without Jesus.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
422. ARGUMENT FROM QUOTE MINING
(1) Here is an irrelevant quote by Stephen Jay Gould that proves that evolution is wrong.
(2) [Atheist: Uhhh, that quote is a bit out of context. Actually, if you read the whole page from which the quote is taken, you'll see that—]
(3) Since evolution is wrong, Creationism is true.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
423. ARGUMENT FROM IDIOTS AT THE DOOR
(1) Hello, we would like to talk about God—
(2) GET THE HELL OFF MY PROPERTY!!!
(3) Therefore, God exists.
424. ARGUMENT FROM SNOTTY BRITISH BIOLOGIST
(1) Richard Dawkins ridicules religion in some of his books.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
425. ARGUMENT FROM OPENING OF MOUTH
(1) If you talk about something, that means it actually exists.
(2) God.
(3) Odin.
(4) Nah-uh.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
426. ARGUMENT FROM JOAN OF ARC
(1) I found a sword in a field.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
427. ARGUMENT FROM STUDENT PAPERS
(1) I'm writing my paper at the last minute.
(2) I know I should have done it two weeks ago, when I first knew about the paper, but I was busy.
(3) I pray that God will help me get it done by morning.
(4) Yay! It's done!
(5) Who cares that it's not nearly as good as it could have been if I'd spent several days on it?
(6) Thank you, Lord!
(7) Therefore, God exists.
428. ARGUMENT FROM STUDENT PAPERS (II)
(1) This author is stupid bitch.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
429. ARGUMENT FROM OTHER PEOPLE'S REALITY
(1) I have experienced God.
(2) Other people have not.
(3) Poor people. There is something wrong with their perception of reality.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
430. ARGUMENT FROM "OFFICE SPACE"
(1) PC Load Letter, what the fuck is that?
(2) Someone must know what it means.
(3) Michael Bolton doesn't know (and he's smart).
(4) God would know.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
431. ARGUMENT FROM "AMERICAN BEAUTY" (I)
(1) This bag was swirling around in the wind.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
432. ARGUMENT FROM "AMERICAN BEAUTY" (II)
(1) Thora Birch.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
433. ARGUMENT FROM THE TGE PROJECT
(1) The TGE Project's list has gone on far longer than any reasonable person would expect.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
434. ARGUMENT FROM KEVIN BACON
(1) Kevin Bacon is haunting my dorm.
(2) He keeps rattling and scratching at my door at night.
(3) I prayed to Jebus, and Kevin Bacon hasn't broken down my door yet.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
435. ARGUMENT FROM MY FAVORITE SONG ON THE RADIO
(1) I was listening to the radio, and I started thinking about my favorite song.
(2) Then my favorite song started playing on the radio!
(3) God must have heard my thoughts!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
436. ARGUMENT FROM THE FORCE
(1) Dude, the Force is totally a metaphor for God!
(2) What do you mean that doesn't prove anything? It's Star Wars!
(3) Therefore, God exists.
437. ARGUMENT FROM I WAS A SICK SON OF A BITCH
(1) When I was an Atheist, I smoked crack, robbed gas stations, raped prostitutes, and stole candy from babies.
(2) When I found Jesus, I stopped doing that stuff.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
438. ARGUMENT FROM INTELLIGENT WEB DESIGN
(1) The AIG website is too complex to have arisen by chance.
(2) Therefore it was intelligently designed.
(3) Therefore, the designers are intelligent, so we can trust what they say.
(4) They say God exists.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
439. ARGUMENT FROM UNINTELLIGENT WEB DESIGN
(1) The AIG website is too complex to have arisen by chance.
(2) Therefore it was intelligently designed.
(3) Creationists are not intelligent, so it must have been God.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
440. ARGUMENT FROM CONTRADICTION
(1) Assume that God exists.
(2) The Atheist claims that God doesn't exist.
(3) But since this contradicts the original assumption, the Atheist must be wrong.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
441. ARGUMENT FROM MESSED UP TRINITARIAN REASONING
(1) God is three.
(2) Three's a crowd.
(3) A crowd consists of people.
(4) People exist.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
442. THE INEVITABLE ARGUMENT FROM HOMER SIMPSON
(1) Doh!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
443. ARGUMENT FROM "24"
(1) The following takes place between 9:00 PM and 10:00 PM on the day of the California Presidential Primary.
(2) [Christian spends an hour "witnessing"]
(3) Therefore, God exists.
444. ARGUMENT FROM POT
(1) Everything on Earth is here for people to use.
(2) Weed makes you feel really good.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
445. ARGUMENT FROM TASTY ANIMALS
(1) If we weren't meant to eat animals, they wouldn't be made of meat.
(2) Animals are made of meat.
(3) Therefore, God meant us to eat them.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
4a) . . . and he wants me to eat your cow.
446. ELRIC'S ARGUMENT FROM QUICK DEATH(TM)
(1) The Bible is full of mass murdering, infant slaying, child-killing bastards who claimed to do God's work.
(2) Personally, I would rather die a quick death at the hands of a madman than a slow one. Wouldn't you?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
447. ARGUMENT FROM HOMOSEXUALS
(1) If God created us as in Adam and Eve, then there would not be homosexuals.
(2) Therefore, all homosexuals are really straight people just pretending to be gay.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
448. ARGUMENT FROM ABSURDITY
(1) Let's imagine that God doesn't exist.
(2) That's absurd.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
449. ARGUMENT FROM BULLY
(1) I say God exists.
(2) If you don't believe me, I'll punch you in the face.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
450. ARGUMENT FROM RANDOM COUNTERPOINT
(1) God doesn't exist.
(2) Or does he . . .?
(3) Therefore, God exists.
451. ARGUMENT FROM ASSHOLE
(1) God exists, asshole.
(2) Therefore, God exists. Asshole.
452. AUDREY MEYER'S ARGUMENT FROM IGNORANCE
(1) Ignorance runs rampant.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
453. ARGUMENT FROM STAR TREK (II)
(1) The makers of Star Trek presented the view that human life was planted by aliens.
(2) They did this because they knew that life emerging from elementary particles was improbable.
(3) But this only delays the answer to the problem of origins.
(4) Easy answer: God did it.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
454. ARGUMENT FROM GRATUITOUS SUFFERING (JOB 19:25's ARGUMENT)
(1) A doctor I knew didn't believe in God.
(2) He saw children dying of cancer.
(3) They said they saw angels right before they passed away.
(4) He became convinced.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
455. ARGUMENT FROM PORN
(1) Atheists are immoral wretches who approve perversions such as incest.
(2) Just look at porn.
(3) Don't you watch Howard Stern? All porn stars are Atheists!
(4) You bunch of perverts. Repent!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
456. ARGUMENT FROM PERSONAL EMPLOYMENT
(1) The other day I was praying about what kind of job I should take.
(2) Then I picked up the paper and read an article that mentioned the name of a popular donut shop. For some reason I felt "led" to go apply there. When I arrived, I felt a bit uneasy, but then I noticed one car parked out front — the 3 letters on the license plate were my exact initials in order. And the store van had the number 333 on it!
(3) They weren't hiring, but therefore, God exists anyway.
457. ARGUMENT FROM GILDA RADNER
(1) What's all this fuss I hear about whether God exits?
(2) Well of course he does!
(3) If I'm going to go somewhere else, I have to exit this room.
(4) And God's been everywhere, so he must have done a lot of exiting.
(5) Therefore, God exits.
(6) [told that debate is whether God exists.]
(7) Oh. That's different. Never mind.
458. ARGUMENT FROM MATHEMATICIANS
(1) We humans are living beings, and thus biological.
(2) Biology is based on biochemistry.
(3) All biochemistry is chemistry.
(4) Chemistry is based on physics.
(5) Physics is based on mathematics.
(6) Therefore, everything is mathematical, including us.
(7) Polls show that, of all scientists, mathematicians are most likely to believe in God.
(8) Therefore, God exists.
459. ARGUMENT FROM PENIS ENLARGEMENT
(1) I became a born-again Christian when I was 12.
(2) Since then, my penis has grown about 2 inches.
(3) Hence, belief in God enlarges your penis.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
460. ARGUMENT FROM CONSEQUENCES OF THE ABSURD (THE MOST IRREFUTABLE ARGUMENT)
(1) Suppose God didn't exist.
(2) Then he wouldn't have made the universe.
(3) And he wouldn't have spread his word.
(4) And he wouldn't have sent his own son to sacrifice himself for mankind.
(5) But the universe does exist.
(6) And the Bible is spread all over the world.
(7) And Jesus did die.
(8) Therefore, God exists.
461. VANDERZYDEN'S ARGUMENT FROM SECRET KNOWLEDGE
(1) There is overwhelming evidence for the existence of God.
(2) No, I'm not going to tell you what it is.
(3) The only possible explanation for your lack of knowledge is that you haven't studied enough.
(4) Or maybe your Atheistic presupposition is blinding you to the truth.
(5) But trust me — it's overwhelming.
(6) It's so overwhelming that no reasonable person can honestly reach the conclusion that God does not exist.
(7) Therefore, God exists.
462. ARGUMENT FROM OSAMA
(1) If Osama bin Laden were saved by God, then you would see the effects of God on him.
(2) But he hasn't gotten saved by God.
(3) But just pretend he has.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
463. ARGUMENT FROM ENGINEERING
(1) I'm an engineer.
(2) If I applied the same logic to my engineering work as I do to my rationale for God's existence, then the things I engineer would fall apart.
(3) Somehow, I am still employed as an engineer.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
464. GEMMA THERESE'S ARGUMENT FROM THE WONDERFUL NATURE OF MONKS AND NUNS
(1) I have met many nuns who seem to be gentle, sweet women living for Christ.
(2) Some of these nuns have dementia.
(3) Others are of sound mind, but must watch and understand what is happening as the minds of those with dementia are slowly destroyed.
(4) Despite these awful things, they have total trust in God and dedication to him.
(5) I sat with one once who said, "I was just thinking about how good God has been to us."
(6) Even the ones who have dementia, etc. remember their prayers.
(7) It cannot possibly be that the nuns with worse characters are kept away from the volunteers.
(8) Nor can it possibly be that nuns with severe dementia who no longer remember their prayers are kept away from the volunteers.
(9) All monks and nuns simply must be as wonderful as those I know.
(10) By contrast, Atheists are arrogant people who refuse to shut themselves away uselessly in cloisters singing praise to Atheism.
(11) Therefore, God exists.
465. ARGUMENT FROM IRS DIFFICULTY
(1) The IRS fucking sucks.
(2) Mr. Kent Hovind is busy making them chase their tails!
(3) So what if half of America likes to waste their time?
(4) Therefore, God exists.
466. ARGUMENT FROM REPETITION
(1) God exists.
(2) God exists.
(3) God exists.
...
(n) God exists.
(n+1) Therefore, God exists.
467. ARGUMENT FROM IMPERFECT REPETITION
(1) God God God God God God God God God God God God Jesus God God God God God God God God God Lord and Savior God God God God God God God God God Hell God God God God God God God God God God God God God Eternal Paradise God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God God!
(2) Therefore, God exists.
468. ARGUMENT FROM NOAH'S ARK
(1) They found a boat on a mountain somewhere.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
469. ARGUMENT FROM SCHIZOPHRENIA
(1) I hear voices in my head.
(2) The voices say they are God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
470. ARGUMENT FROM WORDS I MADE UP
(1) (insert religious rant)
(2) Dr. Heckle and Mr. Jeckle.
(3) You see I create words, why can't God create the universe?
(4) Therefore, God exists.
471. ARGUMENT FROM SALAD BAR
(1) I only believe in the parts of the Bible that I want to believe.
(2) The parts I believe are logical and make sense.
(3) Therefore, the Bible is logical and makes sense.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
472. SILENT DAVE'S ARGUMENT
(1) Chicken Girl.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
473. CHICKEN GIRL'S ARGUMENT
(1) Silent Dave.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
474. ARGUMENT FROM SKEWED ASSUMPTIONS
(1) You're an Atheist? But you're so nice!
(2) I just assumed you were a Christian.
(3) The niceness must be the light of God shining in you, whether you know it or not.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
475. ARGUMENT FROM ANGER
(1) Jesus came to bring peace, and there's not a word in the Bible that says otherwise.
(2) [Atheist quotes the "I came not to bring peace but a sword" part]
(3) You sound angry when you say that. Why are you so angry?
(4) You're angry at God, aren't you?
(5) Therefore, God exists.
476. ARGUMENT FROM SELF-EVIDENCE
(1) People can agree on certain things, right?
(2) For example, we can agree that there is a tree standing right over there.
(3) We don't spend a lot of time arguing about the existence of the tree, because it's so self-evident.
(4) God's existence is similarly self-evident.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
477. ARGUMENT FROM SELF-EVIDENCE, ABRIDGED
(1) God is self-evident.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
478. ARGUMENT FROM CERTAIN KNOWLEDGE OF OBJECTIVE MORALS
(1) Every culture thinks murder is bad.
(2) They do so!
(3) And God forbids murder.
(4) And every culture thinks incest is bad, and God forbids incest.
(5) They do so, too!
(6) Therefore, God exists.
479. ARGUMENT FROM NERVOUS SCIENTISTS
(1) Scientists working on evolution are beginning to realize that it's a failed theory.
(2) They are so! They're just too nervous to admit their mistake, because they've led all those souls to Hell.
(3) Why would they be nervous if God didn't exist?
(4) Therefore, God exists.
480. ARGUMENT FROM EMINEM
(1) I like Eminem's music.
(2) He's using it to spread good to the world.
(3) One day, everyone who listens to his music will realize he's singing about stupid things to keep people from doing them.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
481. ARGUMENT FROM THIS WONDERFUL HISTORIAN
(1) There's this wonderful historian!
(2) His academic credentials are NEVER doubted by like-minded Christians!
(3) Now, this historian has proved conclusively, to his own satisfaction and to the satisfaction of like-minded Christians, that the Bible must be totally true.
(4) Therefore, both the Old Testament and the New Testament have been proven true.
(5) I hear the skeptic ask: If this his historically true, why do so many historians doubt the reliability of the Bible?
(6) The answer is, there is a conspiracy among the unfaithful to prevent this proof of Christianity being known.
(7) Naturally, the conspiracy must include powerful people like President Bush, or it could not succeed.
(8) Doubt not, O unbeliever, only have FAITH!
(9) Therefore, God exists.
482. CHRISTMAS ARGUMENT
(1) How can you doubt Christianity now, at this most special and most Holy time of the year?
(2) Today, oh unbeliever, surely you must fall down in adoration when you consider how God sent his only son to redeem all mankind from Hell!
(3) Today, oh unbeliever, surely you must fall down in adoration when you consider how we are all God's children!
(4) Today, oh unbeliever, surely you must remember how many will go to perdition, as it says in the Holy Book of Revelation!
(5) God in his infinite compassion does not want you to go to Hell, which He in His infinite mercy created!
(6) Cease your unbelief, and join in the wonder of Christmas!
(7) Praise the Baby Jesus!
(8) Praise the Baby Jesus!
(9) Praise the Baby Jesus!
(10) Therefore, God exists.
483. ARGUMENT FROM PROBABLE PROOF
(1) God exists.
(2) Can I prove it? Probably.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
484. ARGUMENT FROM EGO
(1) God is what the universe revolves around.
(2) The universe revolves around me.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
485. ARGUMENT FROM FLUFFY CATS IN SUNLIGHT
(1) A cat basking in sunlight smells good.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
486. ARGUMENT FROM LEGOLAS (TEENAGED GIRL'S ARGUMENT)
(1)
(2) Therefore, God exists.
487. ARGUMENT FROM OVERSTRESSED TEACHING ASSISTANT
(1) I have to write two papers and grade a hundred.
(2) There's no possible way I can get all of this work done!
(3) [16-hour working frenzy]
(4) I got it all done! God must have helped me!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
488. ARGUMENT FROM T.A. PRAYING OVER PACKED LUNCH
(1) O Lord, bless this Lunchable, and let it not be all moldy like the last one.
(2) [gingerly peeks]
(3) It's not moldy! Praise the Lord!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
489. ARGUMENT FROM NOTHING
(1) Nothing comes from nothing.
(2) God is not nothing.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
490. ARGUMENT FROM DESCARTES BASTARDIZES, PART DEUX
(1) I don't think.
(2) Therefore, God is.
491. ARGUMENT FROM SALEM WITCH TRIALS
(1) The Bible says, "thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
(2) So we killed them.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
492. ARGUMENT FROM "FIELD OF DREAMS"
(1) He built it.
(2) They came.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
493. ARGUMENT FROM GEORGE MICHAEL
(1) George Michael says you got to have a' faith, a' faith, a' faith.
(1) I have faith.
(1) Therefore, God exists.
494. ARGUMENT FROM COMPLEXITY (II), a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (XI)
(1) The human body is too complex to have happened by chance.
(2) So it must have been designed.
(3) [Atheist: Well, wouldn't God be even more complex? So does he have a designer?]
(4) See previous argument.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
495. ARGUMENT FROM CHER
(1) Do you believe in life after love?
(2) I can feel something inside me.
(3) That something must be God.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
496. ARGUMENT FROM LIGHT SWITCH
(1) My husband slowly died of cancer.
(2) But the light switch in the cellar somehow started working properly again, and to my knowledge my husband hadn't fixed it before he died.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
497. ARGUMENT FROM INTUITION AND CONSCIENCE
(1) We feel certain things to be right or wrong.
(2) The reason we feel wrong about certain things is because of our intuition, a.k.a. our conscience.
(3) I'll just ignore the resemblance of intuition with our thoughts, emotions, and animal instinct, or our childhood indoctrination by our culture.
(4) Intuition and conscience are so special! They must be given by God!
(5) Therefore, God exists.
498. ARGUMENT FROM EVIL ATHEIST BOARD
(1) Look at this board. People are so cynical, sarcastic, abusive, hateful, etc.
(2) On the other hand, Christian boards are always gentle, nice, supportive, considerate, etc.
(3) I'll just ignore all the censorship rules in Christian boards, and also my own attitude.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
499. YGUY'S ARGUMENT
(1) What is the root of all knowledge?
(2) A six-year-old can answer this, while you smart-ass Atheists can't.
(3) No, it's not Sesame Street.
(4) It's the phrase "I don't know."
(5) Therefore, God exists.
500. ARGUMENT FROM SPORTS VICTORY (I)
(1) My team won.
(2) They got their talent from God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
501. ARGUMENT FROM SPORTS VICTORY (II)
(1) My team won.
(2) It's because they prayed to Jesus.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
502. ARGUMENT FROM SIGN AT SPORTS GAME
(1) John 3:16
(2) Therefore, God exists.
503. ARGUMENT FROM BATHROOM
(1) I have to pee.
(2) Our bodies are perfectly designed so that we can do this.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
504. ARGUMENT FROM POSSIBILITY
(1) Without theists, all Gods are possible.
(2) Without Atheists, all Gods are possible.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
505. 7th ANGEL'S ARGUMENT (CONDENSED)
(1) Is are five when lemon fell purple left thinks acrophobe sticks.
(2) For sharp king jigsaw white roll quick double; quality bunny done press highly.
(3) Therefore, God exists, and it all makes sense.
506. ARGUMENT FROM INDIA (ASYMMETRIC)
(1) Mother Theresa's compassion and voluntary poverty prove that her Christianity is the true religion.
(2) No, Gandhi's compassion and voluntary poverty do NOT prove that his Hinduism is the true religion.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
507. ARGUMENT FROM PLAYGROUND SOCIAL DYNAMICS
(1) The public school system is overwhelmingly populated by Christian kids.
(2) If you raise your kid an Atheist, he will get beaten up a lot.
(3) No, this is NOT a reason to be angry at Christians. It is a reason to become one.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
508. ARGUMENT FROM BLATANT CHEATING
(1) The following statement is true.
(2) The preceding statement is false.
(3) While you're puzzling that one out, I'm going to run around and tell everyone that you said God exists!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
509. DR. LAURA'S ARGUMENT.
(1) God either exists or doesn't exist.
(2) How can God not exist?
(3) Whore.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
510. ARGUMENT FROM A BILLION DOLLARS
(1) If someone you didn't like opened a bank account with a billion dollars in it, and put it in your name, you would not believe him and you would lose your billion dollar gift.
(2) This is like me telling you about the gift of God's love. It's a gift that you have, you just don't believe it.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
511. ARGUMENT FROM KISSING GOD'S ASS, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM KISSING HANK'S ASS (II)
(1) God loves you, and wants you to kiss His Ass.
(2) He will give you a million dollars when you leave town.
(3) No, you can't come back after you leave town.
(4) My mother left town, and she got the million dollars.
(5) No, we haven't talked to her since she left town.
(6) God will kick the shit out of you if you don't believe in him.
(7) Therefore, God exists.
512. ARGUMENT FROM RESPECT
(1) You have to respect my right to believe that God exists.
(2) You also have to respect my right to believe that I don't have to respect your right to believe that God doesn't exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
513. ARGUMENT FROM TIME TRAVEL
(1) If time machines existed, then you could go back in history and change events.
(2) God can do that.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
514. ARGUMENT FROM ROCKET SCIENCE
(1) [Atheist spends hours trying to argue the nonexistence of God, unsuccessfully]
(2) Atheist: Look, this isn't rocket science!
(3) Christian: Yes, but rocket science is!
(4) Therefore, God exists.
515. ARGUMENT FROM STUPID BUMPER STICKER (I)
(1) Real men love Jesus.
(2) God made real men.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
516. ARGUMENT FROM STUPID BUMPER STICKER (II)
(1) God said it.
(2) I believe it.
(3) That settles it.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
517. ARGUMENT FROM STUPID SYMBOL ON CAR
(1) Fish-shaped symbol labeled "Truth" eats Darwin symbol.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
518. ARGUMENT FROM GOOGLE, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM MULTIPLICITY (III)
(1) Google indexes about 44 million pages containing the keyword "God."
(2) So many websites can't be wrong!
(3) Therefore, God exists.
519. ARGUMENT FROM THE BUTTERFLY EFFECT
(1) You know how a butterfly flapping its wings can cause a hurricane on the other side of the world?
(2) Well, surely another mundane event must have caused God's existence by now!
(3) Therefore, God exists.
520. ARGUMENT FROM MARTIAL KNOWLEDGE / ARGUMENT FROM "THE MATRIX" (II)
(1) I know kung fu.
(2) Therefore, God exists.
521. ARGUMENT FROM THE PEOPLE
(1) All comrades are invited to express their opinion on God's existence in a democratic referendum.
(2) Any comrade who votes "No" will be tortured, mutilated, and shot.
(3) Therefore, Comrade God exists.
522. META-ARGUMENT (II)
(1) I think we've spent too much time discussing whether God exists or not.
(2) We should now discuss whether or not we should discuss whether God exists or not.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
523. ARGUMENT FROM THE ROLLING STONES
(1) You can't always get what you want.
(2) If you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need.
(3) I need God to exist.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
524. ARGUMENT FROM JOHN LENNON
(1) John Lennon once said that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus.
(2) I didn't like that.
(3) Somebody killed him for saying that.
(4) Obviously, God didn't like him saying that, either.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
525. BOB GREEN'S ARGUMENT FROM THE AUTONOMIC NERVOUS SYSTEM
(1) God is the giver and sustainer of life. Only he can create a person's life force, and only he can take it away.
(2) Humans cannot will their own deaths just by thinking about it, as Jesus did after he was scourged, crucified, and stabbed in the side with a lance, although he could have survived if he wanted to, because he is God.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
526. ARGUMENT FROM THE X-FILES
(1) The truth is out there.
(2) God is the truth.
(3) Ergo, God is out there.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
527. ARGUMENT FROM JUST MAYBE
(1) A big-name scientist, somewhere, once admitted that it just might be possible, perhaps, that one of the many pieces of evidence for evolution could, maybe, if P < 0.05, be false.
(2) Therefore, evolution is definitely false.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
528. ARGUMENT FROM LACK OF KNOWLEDGE
(1) See this circle?
(2) Its interior represents all that we know.
(3) What we don't know is huge, perhaps infinite.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
529. ARGUMENT FROM NECESSARY FAITH
(1) It is impossible to prove the existence of God.
(2) Proof denies faith.
(3) Faith is necessary.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
530. TYLER'S ARGUMENT FROM JESSICA ALBA
(1) Jessica Alba is a friggin' goddess!
(2) Therefore, goddesses exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
531. ARGUMENT FROM REASON AND TRUTH (ST. AUGUSTINE'S ARGUMENT FOR TRUTH), a.k.a. PRESUPPOSITIONALIST (III)
(1) If there is something immutable and superior to reason, then God exists.
(2) Truth is immutable and superior to reason.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
532. ARGUMENT FROM HELL AND ETERNAL TORMENT (ST. AUGUSTINE'S ARGUMENT FOR HELL)
(1) If there is no hell, then I can't watch souls punished for eternity.
(2) When I'm in heaven, I want to watch souls in eternal torment.
(3) God is necessary for heaven and hell to exist.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
533. ARGUMENT FROM WRATH OF GOD (ST. PAUL'S ARGUMENT)
(1) The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness.
(2) I like the idea of God being against those I call godless and wicked.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
534. ARGUMENT FROM GOD'S INVISIBLE QUALITIES (ST. PAUL'S ARGUMENT)
(1) God's invisible qualities — his eternal power and divine nature — have been clearly seen.
(2) Also, men who say they don't see these qualities are without excuse and are fools.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
535. ARGUMENT FROM CAUSALITY AND INTELLIGENCE, BY PETER KREEFT, a.k.a. DESIGN/TELEOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (XII)
(1) You can't get more in the effect than you had in the cause.
(2) A universe ruled by blind chance has no intelligence.
(3) Humans are intelligent.
(4) Therefore there must be a cause for human intelligence that transcends the universe.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
536. ARGUMENT FROM PRINCIPLE OF SUFFICIENT REASON, BY PETER KREEFT, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (III)
(1) Everything that is has some adequate or sufficient reason why it is.
(2) The universe exists.
(3) Therefore, the universe has to have a sufficient reason, an uncaused cause.
(4) The only reason I can think of is God.
(5) Quantum Mechanics and Inflation Theory? Never heard of them.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
537. ARGUMENT FROM SINE QUA NON, BY PETER KREEFT, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (IV)
(1) A cause is the sine qua non for an effect.
(2) If no cause, no effect.
(3) If no creator, no creation.
(4) If no God, no universe.
(5) The universe exists.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
538. ARGUMENT FROM POSITIVE NUMBERS, BY PETER KREEFT, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (V), a.k.a. ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (III)
(1) Positive numbers are not caused by negative numbers.
(2) There is a parallel in the number series for a first cause: the number one.
(3) If there were no number one, there could be no subsequent addition of units.
(4) Two is two ones, three is three ones, and so on. If there were no first, there could be no second or third.
(5) God is like the number one.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
539. ARGUMENT FROM NEGATIVE NUMBERS
(1) Humans used to think that negative numbers did not exist.
(2) Mathematicians tell us that they do exist.
(3) God is like negative numbers.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
540. ARGUMENT FROM BEGINNING TO TIME, BY ST. THOMAS, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (VI)
(1) If there was no God, there was no beginning to time.
(2) If there was no beginning to time, all things that could happen would have happened by now and the universe would have ended.
(3) The universe still exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
541. ARGUMENT FROM FEELING IN MY BONES, BY C. S. LEWIS, a.k.a. FIRST CAUSE ARGUMENT (VII)
(1) "I felt in my bones that this universe does not explain itself."
(2) This universe needs an explanation.
(3) The explanation must be God, because I can't think of anything else.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
542. ARGUMENT FROM PERFECTION, GOODNESS OR VALUE, BY ST. THOMAS, a.k.a. ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT (IV)
(1) We rank things as more or less perfect, or good or valuable.
(2) If this ranking is false and meaningless, then souls don't really have any more perfection than slugs.
(3) Therefore, there must be an ultimate standard of perfection for this ranking or all our value judgments are meaningless.
(4) Our value judgments are not meaningless.
(5) God is the ultimate standard of perfection.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
543. ARGUMENT FROM NEGATIVE DIVINE JUSTICE (I)
(1) If there is no God, then Hitler and Stalin were never punished for the evil that they did.
(2) There would be no Divine Justice for them, and this is not acceptable.
(3) Only God could give us Divine Justice.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
544. ARGUMENT FROM NEGATIVE DIVINE JUSTICE (II)
(1) If there is no God, then gays and others who do things I don't like may never be punished.
(2) I want them to be punished.
(3) Only God could give us Divine Justice and punish them.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
545. ARGUMENT FROM POSITIVE DIVINE JUSTICE, a.k.a. ARGUMENT FROM NECESSARY FAIRNESS
(1) If there is no God, then the death of a little girl would be unfair.
(2) It's also just not fair that so many millions of people suffer every day of their lives.
(3) There's got to be more to life than the veil of tears we experience.
(4) Our sense of justice demands that these wrongs be righted.
(5) Only God could do that.
(6) Therefore, God exists.
546. ARGUMENT FROM CONSEQUENTIAL DIVINE JUSTICE
(1) If there is no God, then our lives are essentially worthless and meaningless.
(2) There would be no consequences of our actions other than the pleasure they bring us in the here and now.
(3) There would be no Divine Justice, and this is not acceptable.
(4) Only God could give us Divine Justice.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
547. ST. ANSELM’S ONTOLOGICAL ARGUMENT
(1) God exists in our understanding. This means that the concept of God resides as an idea in our minds.
(2) God is a possible being, and might exist in reality. He is possible because the concept of God does not bear internal contradictions.
(3) If something exists exclusively in our understanding and might have existed in reality then it might have been greater. This simply means that something that exists in reality is perfect (or great). Something that is only a concept in our minds could be greater by actually existing.
(4) Suppose (theoretically) that God only exists in our understanding and not in reality.
(5) If this were true, then it would be possible for God to be greater then he is (follows from premise #3).
(6) This would mean that God is a being in which a greater is possible.
(7) This is absurd because God, a being in which none greater is possible, is a being in which a greater is possible. Herein lies the contradiction.
(8) Thus it follows that it is false for God to only exist in our understanding.
(9) Hence God exists in reality as well as our understanding.
(10) Therefore, God exists.
548. ARGUMENT FROM REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM, a.k.a. ST. ANSELM'S ARGUMENT FROM FOOLS
(1) The Fool asserts that God does not exist.
(2) What is called "God" is "a being than which no greater can be conceived."
(3) The Fool agrees that "a being than which no greater can be conceived" exists in the mind, since he understands the words.
(4) To say that "a being than which no greater can be conceived" does not exist is to say that such a being is only an idea -- it does not exist in the mind and in reality.
(5) But such a being, which exists in the mind alone, is in fact "a being than which a greater can be conceived" since it is greater to exist in both mind and reality than just mind alone.
(6) So, the Fool believes that "a being than which no greater can be conceived" is "a being than which a greater can be conceived" which is impossible.
(7) Therefore, since "a being than which no greater can be conceived" cannot exist in the mind alone (because that is self-contradictory) such a being must exist in both mind and reality.
(8) Therefore, God exists.
549. ARGUMENT FROM KARMA
(1) There are persons who are unusually beautiful and powerful both in this life and in the life after death.
(2) Therefore, there must be a supreme authority who is able to award the respective benefits of our present activities.
(3) Only God could be the supreme authority.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
550. ARGUMENT FROM REVEALED SANSKRIT SCRIPTURES
(1) The existence of God can not be inferred from sense perception (pratyaksa) or from logic (anumana).
(2) The existence of God can be understood from the revealed scriptures (sabda).
(3) Revealed scriptures say that God exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
551. ARGUMENT FROM BIG BANG AND QUANTUM MECHANICS
(1) The Big Bang would never have banged if there were no god (or some ET) as observer to collapse the waveform.
(2) Therefore God (or some ET) must have existed at some point in the past.
(3) If an ET had done it, he would be God.
(4) God is eternal, so if He did exist He must still exist.
(5) Therefore, God exists.
552. ARGUMENT FROM CLOTHING
(1) Fundie: "Why do you wear clothes?"
(2) Atheist: "It is cold, I like having pockets for stuff, my body isn't too neat to look at, and most of all, I would be arrested and forced to clothe myself anyway."
(3) Fundie: "No. You wear clothes because Adam and Eve sinned and were kicked out of the Garden of Eden and made ashamed of their nakedness."
(4) Atheist: "What about primitive societies where the natives go bare-assed without embarrassment?"
(5) Fundie: "The word of God hasn't reached them."
(6) Therefore, God exists.
553. ARGUMENT FROM NECESSARY INVENTION
(1) "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him." - Voltaire
(2) God must exist.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
554. ARGUMENT FROM TERMINOLOGY
(1) There are hundreds of proofs of god's existence.
(2) When you call something a 'proof', that means you have shown the result to be true.
(3) Therefore God exists.
555. ARGUMENT FROM MULTIPLICITY (IV) (recursive internet edition)
(1) There exists a web page (www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm)
(2) That page has hundreds of purported proofs of the existence of God.
(3) They can't all be wrong.
(4) Therefore, God exists.
Ergo
666. ARGUMENT FROM ASSUMPTION
(1) God exists.
(2) Therefore, God exists.




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